Installing Systemback

[Robertg]

Hello everyone this is my first time posting here so I hope this is in the correct forum

I was wondering if I could install Systemback in my Debian system, I have it on a few other system running Ubuntu and would like to also install it on my Debian machine as well. I tried a few different commands but so far no luck

This is my first time installing Debian and for the most part I'm really happy with the way it's performing on a external hard dirve

Thanks so much for any help

[marcetm]

Here you've got a screencast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpS8xWGzaHs

[dasein]

In no particular order...

1) "I tried a few different commands but so far no luck" isn't diagnostically useful. Since one here is telepathic, you need to provide specific details of what you've tried, along with verbatim error messages.

2) If you're trying to mix-and-match repos between Debian and Ubuntu, you are setting yourself up for potentially catastrophic failure. See http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=114130 for more information.

[GarryRicketson]

by Robertg »I tried a few different commands but so far no luck

That is nice, but how are we supposed to know what commands you actually tried ?

I have a very slow internet connection, and limited bandwidth available,
so watching some youtube video, is not something I am interested in.
There is no reason you can not copy/paste the commands you used
to the post, use code boxes, that is a feature to help make it easy to do that.

I had never heard of "Systemback", so I did a search.
It does not seem to be a Debian package, and is not in the Debian repositories,..how ever
in the search results there were some results about re-building Ubuntu packages,..

from: https://unix.stackexchange.com/question ... repositoryYes, ideally you shouldn't install Ubuntu packages on a Debian system. What you can do is rebuild the Ubuntu package on a Debian system and then install that package - your dependencies will then be 100% correct. The backporting instructions should be a good starting

But there is not sense in doing all that. The commands needed to create a good back up,
and restore a system from the same back up, all ready exist in Debian, there is no real
need for a program like this "Systemback", you all ready have the tools needed, and the commands,.. except maybe "rsync" is not installed be default.
A simple search, " How to make a back up using the linux commandline"
or "How to make a back up using Debian" should give you a lot of details
on making back ups of your system,.. with out using some Ubuntu program.


Before you rush off and start trying to install Ubuntu ppas,... maybe it would be a good idea to read this:https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian

[peer]

systemback has a very nice feature: it can create a live iso's!!!
The famous music distribution avlinux uses systemback for creating her live cd.

Is systemback still maintained?? I thought it stopped.

I tried it once on a ubuntu distro but I never tried it on a debian distro.

on https://answers.launchpad.net/systembac ... ion/432133 I read that systemback cannot be installed on debian 7 it needs debian 8.
So If you are running debian 8 it should be possible.

[Robertg]

Thanks everyone for all the great info, seeing Debian is based off of Ubuntu I was under the impression the commands used were the same. I did follow the instructions on the launchpad to install Systemback but could not get it installed https://answers.launchpad.net/systembac ... ion/432133

I have not yet tried rsync but heard it's a good command to use for backups I did not want to break my systems using a command I know nothing of

Does anyone have a good reference page for basic command I need to use for Debian?

Thanks so much

[Robertg]

systemback has a very nice feature: it can create a live iso's!!!
The famous music distribution avlinux uses systemback for creating her live cd.

Is systemback still maintained?? I thought it stopped.

I tried it once on a ubuntu distro but I never tried it on a debian distro.

on https://answers.launchpad.net/systembac ... ion/432133 I read that systemback cannot be installed on debian 7 it needs debian 8.
So If you are running debian 8 it should be possible.

Yes I tried installing it using the commands listed on the Launchpad page but could not get it installed

[Robertg]

Before you rush off and start trying to install Ubuntu ppas,... maybe it would be a good idea to read this:https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian

Thanks so much I will bookmark the page you provided

[Robertg]

by Robertg »I tried a few different commands but so far no luck

That is nice, but how are we supposed to know what commands you actually tried ?

I have a very slow internet connection, and limited bandwidth available,
so watching some youtube video, is not something I am interested in.
There is no reason you can not copy/paste the commands you used
to the post, use code boxes, that is a feature to help make it easy to do that.

I had never heard of "Systemback", so I did a search.
It does not seem to be a Debian package, and is not in the Debian repositories,..how ever
in the search results there were some results about re-building Ubuntu packages,..

from: https://unix.stackexchange.com/question ... repositoryYes, ideally you shouldn't install Ubuntu packages on a Debian system. What you can do is rebuild the Ubuntu package on a Debian system and then install that package - your dependencies will then be 100% correct. The backporting instructions should be a good starting

But there is not sense in doing all that. The commands needed to create a good back up,
and restore a system from the same back up, all ready exist in Debian, there is no real
need for a program like this "Systemback", you all ready have the tools needed, and the commands,.. except maybe "rsync" is not installed be default.
A simple search, " How to make a back up using the linux commandline"
or "How to make a back up using Debian" should give you a lot of details
on making back ups of your system,.. with out using some Ubuntu program.


Before you rush off and start trying to install Ubuntu ppas,... maybe it would be a good idea to read this:https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian

I used the following commands:

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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nemh/systemback
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install systemback

[marcetm]

In the screencast he uses:

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 sudo ./install.sh

[GarryRicketson]

@Robertg
Your welcome, and thank you for posting the commands you used,
On the "don't break Debian", it does not mean you absolutely can not use
another "package" or program, but it is not good to simply install them , like you
have tried to do. It is a pretty advanced operatian,
From the previous link posted:

What you can do is rebuild the Ubuntu package on a Debian system and then install that package - your dependencies will then be 100% correct. The backporting instructions should be a good starting

There are some people here on the forum that may be able to help you on this, Stevepusser has backported many packages,..

Post by peer » 2017-05-28 23:31
systemback has a very nice feature: it can create a live iso's!!!
The famous music distribution avlinux uses systemback for creating her live cd.

Thanks, I did not realize this, and it sounds like a nice feature, maybe it is worth the
time and trouble to rebuild and make a backport for Debian,..

Making backups for Debian , on Debian

Does anyone have a good reference page for basic command I need to use for Debian?

There are many good references listed , here are a couple:
https://wiki.debian.org/BackupAndRecovery
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https://debian-handbook.info/browse/sta ... ackup.html
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https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/syst ... ackup.html
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There also is this "refracta snapshot", :
http://refracta.freeforums.org/how-to-i ... -t574.html
However, if you want to go into details on other options , it might be better to start
a new topic on the specific option.
And just concentrate on "Installing Systemback", here in this topic,... my apology for
bringing up the other options,..hope that does not just confuse things.

[marcetm]

I've just installed on a VM with Debian jessie. It's too bad it can't be installed on Debian stretch because the program seems to worth...
I paste here the readme.txt file where you could have found the instruccions to install it on Debian jessie.

This Install Pack contains the Systemback Debian installation packages.
These packages are compatible with the following Linux distributions:
- Ubuntu 14.04.X LTS (Trusty Tahr)
- Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet)
- Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf)
- Ubuntu 16.04.X LTS (Xenial Xerus)
- Debian 8.0 (Jessie)

To install the program just run the 'install.sh' installer script with root privileges in terminal, like this:

sudo ./install.sh

or

sudo sh install.sh

If you want to install the program with debug packages, just run the 'install.sh' installer script with '-d' option:

sudo ./install.sh -d

or

sudo sh install.sh -d

If the installation is successful, the following message appears:

Systemback installation is successful.

If the installation is failed, you will receive the following error message:

Systemback installation is failed!

I also paste a link to an image showing systemback installed.

[stevepusser]

You could always try and rebuild the last version on Stretch. It's based on Qt 5, so shouldn't have any problem building.

I used the following commands:

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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nemh/systemback
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install systemback

Heh, the add-apt-repository command would work in Debian if you knew which package to install (hint: dpkg -S), but not for any PPAs, since they are only for Ubuntu and don't have any "jessie" or any Debian version++ in their releases. That kind of confusion is probably what Debian wants to prevent by not installing it by default.

[debiman]

Thanks so much I will bookmark the page you provided

yes, but you should also read it.
esp. this part, and then this thread.

this, what you're doing there right now, will probably work for the moment.
then, after a few months, usually after an upgrade, sudeenly and miraculously things start breaking.
and the forums have to deal with the aftermath.
we've seen it too many times.