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Re: Upgrade Error

Postby Bugs318 » 2016-09-08 14:08

Regardless of how it got there (is it possible a package downloaded and installed via dpkg installs?) (and though I am certain I never changed repositories, but may have manually downloaded packages in seeking to get others to work - Skype is one that comes to mind that required some effort), are you basically all saying this is not reparable outside of a clean install or a removal of other packages I rely upon?
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Re: Upgrade Error

Postby Ardouos » 2016-09-08 14:33

Bugs318 wrote:Regardless of how it got there (is it possible a package downloaded and installed via dpkg installs?) (and though I am certain I never changed repositories, but may have manually downloaded packages in seeking to get others to work - Skype is one that comes to mind that required some effort), are you basically all saying this is not reparable outside of a clean install or a removal of other packages I rely upon?


Some packages that you install can add external sources in your sources.list.d/
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Re: Upgrade Error

Postby Bugs318 » 2016-09-08 14:46

Great links, thanks Ardouos. Before I go about the task of a clean install, however, I'd much rather find a way to get this back up to testing if at all possible. Is there any way that can be done?
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Re: Upgrade Error

Postby dasein » 2016-09-08 14:52

Sure. Restore from a clean backup.
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Re: Upgrade Error

Postby dilberts_left_nut » 2016-09-08 20:12

Bugs318 wrote:Regardless of how it got there (is it possible a package downloaded and installed via dpkg installs?) (and though I am certain I never changed repositories, but may have manually downloaded packages in seeking to get others to work - Skype is one that comes to mind that required some effort), are you basically all saying this is not reparable outside of a clean install or a removal of other packages I rely upon?

Well the answer is very probably, yes, it should be fairly easily "reparable", depending what 'foreign' packages you have installed and what you think you "rely upon".

The bigger picture is that this is a very common type of package management issue in testing/unstable (due to constant, ongoing package changes) which you will need to learn to deal with to continue successfully.

Spend some time getting some basic familiarity with the package management system and tools (IMHO, the aptitude interface is an excellent aid to this).

If you don't have the time or inclination for such system administration, then stable is what you want to be using (although when mixing in other packages you need to be more aware of these things too).
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Re: Upgrade Error

Postby stevepusser » 2016-09-08 22:12

The error message is misleading; "is to be installed" actually means that older version is already installed. I'd focus on trying to upgrade rdnssd to the testing version with aptitude with the simulation "-s" argument and see if any informative errors show up there...you don't have it pinned for any reason, do you? Other people have had the same kind of issues in posts here, and it turned out to be a pinned package they had forgotten.
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Re: Upgrade Error

Postby Bugs318 » 2016-09-08 23:45

I have pinned packages in other distros before, but don't believe I have here. I do not have a /etc/apt/preferences file. There is an /etc/apt/preferences.d directory, but it is empty (even of hidden files). Is there anywhere else I can verify if I pinned it and forgot?

If run with the -s it still asks about uninstalling required packages. If I click yes, will it simulate the removal there too without actually doing so?

Another thought: would it be possible to remove rdnssd and then install it, or update then install it, as the source pointed to by both apt and aptitude is the current testing package?
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Re: Upgrade Error

Postby stevepusser » 2016-09-08 23:58

Usually, you should be able to directly download the deb package from the bottom of this page and install it with dpkg. It looks like it doesn't depend on any other testing packages.
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Re: Upgrade Error

Postby Bugs318 » 2016-09-09 00:03

dpkg tells me that it conflicts with network-manager, but I presume network-manager likely also has a non-conflicting upgraded version too that I can reinstall later?
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Re: Upgrade Error

Postby Bugs318 » 2016-09-09 00:09

Hmmm, latest package of network manager is the one aptitude and apt tell me that upgraded versions of rdnssd conflict with (1.2.4-2) I MAY be the only one who has a stable version of rdnssd installed in a testing system, but I can't be the only one being told the newest versions of these two packages in testing conflict, can I?
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Re: Upgrade Error

Postby stevepusser » 2016-09-09 00:45

Pretty weird...what's the exact error message? Sometime you can add the "-B" argument to the "dpkg -i" command to allow affected packages to deconfigure and then reconfigure with the new version, but I don't know if that's what's happening here.

You can also get older testing versions of the deb to try and install, if that helps: http://snapshot.debian.org/binary/rdnssd/
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Re: Upgrade Error

Postby kiyop » 2016-09-10 02:48

Bugs318 wrote:I have a system from zareason. They claim to have installed testing as per my request. The install disc they sent with my install was, indeed, testing.

Why not asking zareason?
http://zareason.com/shop/contact.html
Why did you request testing?

I will never buy PC/laptop from zareason ;)

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=129613#p624052
Bugs318 wrote:433 not upgraded.

Why not executing "apt full-upgrade"?

Bugs318 wrote:derek@derek-laptop2: 1779: /etc/apt/sources.list.d$upgrade

One of my debian stable's does not have a command "upgrade".
Did you write some custom script for "upgrade" or an alias for "upgrade"?
If yes, post the concrete contents of it.
If not, execute the following and post the result:
Code: Select all
which upgrade


I suggest you installing stable, without using the install disc given by zareason, and upgrading to testing if you dare to use testing.
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Re: Upgrade Error

Postby Bugs318 » 2016-09-10 22:23

dpkg error message:

dpkg: regarding rdnssd_1.0.1-6_amd64.deb containing rdnssd:
rdnssd conflicts with network-manager
network-manager (version 1.2.4-2) is present and installed.

dpkg: error processing archive rdnssd_1.0.1-6_amd64.deb (--install):
conflicting packages - not installing rdnssd
Errors were encountered while processing:
rdnssd_1.0.1-6_amd64.deb


'upgrade' is alias for 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' as mentioned earlier.
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Re: Upgrade Error

Postby dilberts_left_nut » 2016-09-10 22:34

That looks straightforward - pick one and remove the other.

edit: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=740998
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Re: Upgrade Error

Postby Bugs318 » 2016-09-10 23:41

Is removing rdnssd generally an option? I thought it was a required system file?
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