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Upgrade Error
Re: Upgrade Error
Regardless of how it got there (is it possible a package downloaded and installed via dpkg installs?) (and though I am certain I never changed repositories, but may have manually downloaded packages in seeking to get others to work - Skype is one that comes to mind that required some effort), are you basically all saying this is not reparable outside of a clean install or a removal of other packages I rely upon?
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Re: Upgrade Error
Some packages that you install can add external sources in your sources.list.d/Bugs318 wrote:Regardless of how it got there (is it possible a package downloaded and installed via dpkg installs?) (and though I am certain I never changed repositories, but may have manually downloaded packages in seeking to get others to work - Skype is one that comes to mind that required some effort), are you basically all saying this is not reparable outside of a clean install or a removal of other packages I rely upon?
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Re: Upgrade Error
Great links, thanks Ardouos. Before I go about the task of a clean install, however, I'd much rather find a way to get this back up to testing if at all possible. Is there any way that can be done?
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Re: Upgrade Error
Well the answer is very probably, yes, it should be fairly easily "reparable", depending what 'foreign' packages you have installed and what you think you "rely upon".Bugs318 wrote:Regardless of how it got there (is it possible a package downloaded and installed via dpkg installs?) (and though I am certain I never changed repositories, but may have manually downloaded packages in seeking to get others to work - Skype is one that comes to mind that required some effort), are you basically all saying this is not reparable outside of a clean install or a removal of other packages I rely upon?
The bigger picture is that this is a very common type of package management issue in testing/unstable (due to constant, ongoing package changes) which you will need to learn to deal with to continue successfully.
Spend some time getting some basic familiarity with the package management system and tools (IMHO, the aptitude interface is an excellent aid to this).
If you don't have the time or inclination for such system administration, then stable is what you want to be using (although when mixing in other packages you need to be more aware of these things too).
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Re: Upgrade Error
The error message is misleading; "is to be installed" actually means that older version is already installed. I'd focus on trying to upgrade rdnssd to the testing version with aptitude with the simulation "-s" argument and see if any informative errors show up there...you don't have it pinned for any reason, do you? Other people have had the same kind of issues in posts here, and it turned out to be a pinned package they had forgotten.
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Re: Upgrade Error
I have pinned packages in other distros before, but don't believe I have here. I do not have a /etc/apt/preferences file. There is an /etc/apt/preferences.d directory, but it is empty (even of hidden files). Is there anywhere else I can verify if I pinned it and forgot?
If run with the -s it still asks about uninstalling required packages. If I click yes, will it simulate the removal there too without actually doing so?
Another thought: would it be possible to remove rdnssd and then install it, or update then install it, as the source pointed to by both apt and aptitude is the current testing package?
If run with the -s it still asks about uninstalling required packages. If I click yes, will it simulate the removal there too without actually doing so?
Another thought: would it be possible to remove rdnssd and then install it, or update then install it, as the source pointed to by both apt and aptitude is the current testing package?
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Re: Upgrade Error
Usually, you should be able to directly download the deb package from the bottom of this page and install it with dpkg. It looks like it doesn't depend on any other testing packages.
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Re: Upgrade Error
dpkg tells me that it conflicts with network-manager, but I presume network-manager likely also has a non-conflicting upgraded version too that I can reinstall later?
Re: Upgrade Error
Hmmm, latest package of network manager is the one aptitude and apt tell me that upgraded versions of rdnssd conflict with (1.2.4-2) I MAY be the only one who has a stable version of rdnssd installed in a testing system, but I can't be the only one being told the newest versions of these two packages in testing conflict, can I?
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Re: Upgrade Error
Pretty weird...what's the exact error message? Sometime you can add the "-B" argument to the "dpkg -i" command to allow affected packages to deconfigure and then reconfigure with the new version, but I don't know if that's what's happening here.
You can also get older testing versions of the deb to try and install, if that helps: http://snapshot.debian.org/binary/rdnssd/
You can also get older testing versions of the deb to try and install, if that helps: http://snapshot.debian.org/binary/rdnssd/
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Re: Upgrade Error
Why not asking zareason?Bugs318 wrote:I have a system from zareason. They claim to have installed testing as per my request. The install disc they sent with my install was, indeed, testing.
http://zareason.com/shop/contact.html
Why did you request testing?
I will never buy PC/laptop from zareason
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 13#p624052
Why not executing "apt full-upgrade"?Bugs318 wrote:433 not upgraded.
One of my debian stable's does not have a command "upgrade".Bugs318 wrote:derek@derek-laptop2: 1779: /etc/apt/sources.list.d$upgrade
Did you write some custom script for "upgrade" or an alias for "upgrade"?
If yes, post the concrete contents of it.
If not, execute the following and post the result:
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which upgrade
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Re: Upgrade Error
dpkg error message:
dpkg: regarding rdnssd_1.0.1-6_amd64.deb containing rdnssd:
rdnssd conflicts with network-manager
network-manager (version 1.2.4-2) is present and installed.
dpkg: error processing archive rdnssd_1.0.1-6_amd64.deb (--install):
conflicting packages - not installing rdnssd
Errors were encountered while processing:
rdnssd_1.0.1-6_amd64.deb
'upgrade' is alias for 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' as mentioned earlier.
dpkg: regarding rdnssd_1.0.1-6_amd64.deb containing rdnssd:
rdnssd conflicts with network-manager
network-manager (version 1.2.4-2) is present and installed.
dpkg: error processing archive rdnssd_1.0.1-6_amd64.deb (--install):
conflicting packages - not installing rdnssd
Errors were encountered while processing:
rdnssd_1.0.1-6_amd64.deb
'upgrade' is alias for 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' as mentioned earlier.
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Re: Upgrade Error
That looks straightforward - pick one and remove the other.
edit: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=740998
edit: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=740998
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Re: Upgrade Error
Is removing rdnssd generally an option? I thought it was a required system file?
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i found this on a web search
I think I agree with this postrdnssd(8) - Linux man page
rdnssd is a daemon program providing client-side support for DNS configuration using the Recursive DNS Server (RDNSS) option, as described in RFC 5006.
linux.die.net/man/8/rdnssd
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 88#p624171
p.s. oh yeh by the way, this might be a good time to backup any data you don't want to lose, these things seems to spiral into who-knows-what very unpredictably.If aptitude can't come up with a solution, your path seems clear.
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Re: Upgrade Error
You executed "sudo apt-get update", didn't you?
I don't know if your debian requires a daemon program providing client-side support for DNS configuration using the Recursive DNS Server (RDNSS) option, as described in RFC 5006 or not.
One of my debian jessie's does not have rdnssdBugs318 wrote:Is removing rdnssd generally an option? I thought it was a required system file?
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$ LANG=C apt-cache policy rdnssd
rdnssd:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 1.0.1-1+b1
Version table:
1.0.1-1+b1 0
500 http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main i386 Packages
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Re: Upgrade Error
Well, I removed rdnssd and it seems to be working smoothly without. Good to know. Still not sure how that happened, nor why the two upstream packages are said to conflict for only some people, but it seems this fix is working for me.
Thanks to all who contributed.
Thanks to all who contributed.
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Re: Upgrade Error
Read the bug report I linked.Bugs318 wrote:Still not sure ... why the two upstream packages are said to conflict for only some people
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Re: Upgrade Error
You nailed it, friend. I had an issue similar to this. Recently, like yesterday, I installed jessie and was wondering why my networking kept ceasing to work after 5-10 minutes (or so). Checking resolv.conf showed only ipv6 dns servers. I updated the networkmanager config and within a few seconds it prepended the correct ipv4 server to resolv.conf. 5-10 minutes later name resolution had quit again; resolv.conf showed only ipv6 servers again (with no "edited by networkmanager" comment anymore). Per a debian wiki about NetworkManager, I saw my system was using both dhclient and networkmanager, so I presumed dhclient was the culprit. I changed its config to append the correct servers. The problem recurs while I'm trying to run a dist-upgrade. I notice the dist-upgrade shows an unresolvable conflict with rdnssd: "systemd : Breaks: rdnssd (< 1.0.1-5) but 1.0.1-1+b1 is to be installed." I DuckDuckGo that error which brings me here. I decide to remove rdnssd, presuming network manager will take care of ipv6 dns and rolling the dice. The problem stops (and my dist-upgrade to testing resolves conflicts and completes successfully, with ipv6 still functioning).dilberts_left_nut wrote:Read the bug report I linked.Bugs318 wrote:Still not sure ... why the two upstream packages are said to conflict for only some people
That bug report you linked, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=740998, perfectly describes the issue. Frank Heckenbach also posted a simple patch that prepends the rdnssd data to resolv.conf rather than overwriting:
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--- /etc/rdnssd/merge-hook
+++ /etc/rdnssd/merge-hook
@@ -23,6 +23,7 @@
if [ -x /sbin/resolvconf ]; then
/sbin/resolvconf -a 000.rdnssd < "$INPUT"
else
- cat -- "$INPUT" > "/etc/resolv.conf"
+ orig=`grep -v ^nameserver "/etc/resolv.conf"`
+ { echo "$orig"; cat -- "$INPUT"; } > "/etc/resolv.conf"
fi
I'm a little unsure why Jessie would, during a default graphical install, install rdnssd, dhclient, and NetworkManager but not require resolvconf to properly mediate changes to resolv.conf.