Debian Squeeze - Backports - where? gone?

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Re: Debian Squeeze - Backports - where? gone?

Postby mrkapqa » 2017-04-30 16:48

Hallo Dasein,

i am here - ich bin (auch) da.

no need to argue, no need to take it personally,

and it was no bashing , as this is not my intent and i have no interest whatsoever in doing so.


I am quite New to Linux and am just wondering , why things turn out the way they did here @debian squeeze;


as a matter of fact, i have this computer and spent alot of time with it;
and suddenly ,
now i found out that i am no more able to implement it as i was able before, because the backports are no more available.

i don't know if this has to do with manpower, money or it is just politics;


but i am of the opinion, that whenever somehting is accomplisehd, eg. when programs have been ported etc.

things should be made to last.

if i was able to implement a software in 2014 , why should i not be able to build the same in 2017?

Who does annoy that?
If it is for serverspace - that can be arranged, for sure.

If it is for other reasons,
then i think some people should make their minds up.


Sorry for insisting but i think it is just fair to ask for backports to still be made available.
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Re: Debian Squeeze - Backports - where? gone?

Postby Ardouos » 2017-04-30 19:47

mrkapqa wrote:
Sorry for insisting but i think it is just fair to ask for backports to still be made available.


This is insanity, Squeeze is EOL.
EOL means it is not maintained anymore.
Not maintained anymore means that no one cares about your problems with Squeeze. Sorry.
That's your problem, not theres.

mrkapqa wrote:if i was able to implement a software in 2014 , why should i not be able to build the same in 2017?

Because packages depend on different libraries and compilers. Linux is developed very quickly. As a result of that... There is a reason why people call Debian's packages "old" when the next stable is released.
An example of is would be that Rust is now needed to build later versions of Firefox (53+). This means that Jessie will not be be able to build later versions of Firefox. Hence why the repo was taken down on mozilla.debian.net.
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Re: Debian Squeeze - Backports - where? gone?

Postby No_windows » 2017-04-30 20:02

I think there may be a misunderstanding here....... I think the OP want the backports from when Squeeze was current, not new backports to be made.
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Re: Debian Squeeze - Backports - where? gone?

Postby kmathern » 2017-04-30 21:11

Though I agree with other posters in this thread that there's no good reason to still use the squeeze-backports repository, it is still available/accessible at debian.archive.org - http://archive.debian.org/debian-backports/dists/

The repo entry looks something like this (adding contrib or non-free is optional).
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deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports main contrib non-free


You'll also need to add the `-o Acquire::Check-Valid-Until=false` option when you run apt-get update or you'll get an error about the Release file being expired.
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apt-get -o Acquire::Check-Valid-Until=false update
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Re: Debian Squeeze - Backports - where? gone?

Postby mrkapqa » 2017-05-01 08:25

kmathern wrote:Though I agree with other posters in this thread that there's no good reason to still use the squeeze-backports repository, it is still available/accessible at debian.archive.org - http://archive.debian.org/debian-backports/dists/

The repo entry looks something like this (adding contrib or non-free is optional).
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deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports main contrib non-free


You'll also need to add the `-o Acquire::Check-Valid-Until=false` option when you run apt-get update or you'll get an error about the Release file being expired.
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apt-get -o Acquire::Check-Valid-Until=false update



thank you very much,

i added the first part someday ago, and effectively got an error, so i thought that it is no longer accessible. i am still learning in linux :)
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Re: Debian Squeeze - Backports - where? gone?

Postby mrkapqa » 2017-05-01 08:25

No_windows wrote:I think there may be a misunderstanding here....... I think the OP want the backports from when Squeeze was current, not new backports to be made.


true, thank you for claryfying this.
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Re: Debian Squeeze - Backports - where? gone?

Postby mrkapqa » 2017-05-01 08:27

sorry to everyone if i assumed wrongly that backports are no more available.
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Re: Debian Squeeze - Backports - where? gone?

Postby deborah-and-ian » 2017-05-01 14:33

mrkapqa wrote:2017-04-29 [...]
i just installed Debian Squeeze 32bit on my Macmini 1.1

:(
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Re: Debian Squeeze - Backports - where? gone?

Postby stevepusser » 2017-05-01 21:09

I have to also ask why you insist on using a dead distribution instead of a supported one like Wheezy? Consider that just installing Wheezy would work out of the box, and you wouldn't have to ask the volunteers here to waste their time answering your questions instead of more deserving ones. Are you one of those hipsters that rides your penny-farthing down to the coffee shop and then uses a manual typewriter there?
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Re: Debian Squeeze - Backports - where? gone?

Postby mrkapqa » 2017-05-03 06:58

debian squeeze worked best and is best for this computer so far according to my experience; with wheezy, although a great OS ,
it was more difficult and slow, and 64bit installer dvd won't start altogether (the cpu is 64bit now)
i tried lubuntu 12.04 which is great ,
but debian squeeze is just way more appealing and snappy and first and foremost it is rock"stable" meaning i didn't have problems with crashes or problems with kernel after upgrade etc.

one example : the installed voip program that comes out of the box with squeeze just works and quite never failed one me;
after upgrading to wheezy, the same programs quit to work; and installing linphone etc. became a sort of adventure as i had to rely on external ppa to get a proper version. the basic version that wheezy has 3.5.1 has some flaws when setting up account with wizard.

again, i too like progress, but sometimes it just comes not at the right time.
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Re: Debian Squeeze - Backports - where? gone?

Postby mrkapqa » 2017-05-03 07:03

deborah-and-ian wrote:
mrkapqa wrote:2017-04-29 [...]
i just installed Debian Squeeze 32bit on my Macmini 1.1

:(


:)

yah but i like still smiling

mr. schiller from apple quite feels sorry for people having to rely on older computer, which is not my case as i do it out of will, and i happened quite don't agree with him on this, considering the recent evolution in apple osx .

peace in heaven mr. debian
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Re: Debian Squeeze - Backports - where? gone?

Postby mrkapqa » 2017-05-03 11:54

ok, so today i tried with an image i had on dvd

debian wheezy 7.x i386


it is recognized by macmini

but installation stops after downloading the packages over ethernet ... after 13xx packages downloaded it jumps suddenly to 95% and says

"installationsschritt fehlgeschlagen"
eg. a part of the installation has failed. .... failed has ... Software selection and installation (Software auswählen und installieren)


Thanks
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Re: Debian Squeeze - Backports - where? gone?

Postby Lysander » 2017-05-03 12:15

Could be a hardware incompatibility. I think you're really going to struggle. If I were in your situation I may bite the bullet and just go with Lubuntu/Xubuntu. Both are perfectly good to get what you need done... done.
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Re: Debian Squeeze - Backports - where? gone?

Postby smoki » 2017-05-04 10:23

mrkapqa wrote:ok, so today i tried with an image i had on dvd

debian wheezy 7.x i386


it is recognized by macmini

but installation stops after downloading the packages over ethernet ... after 13xx packages downloaded it jumps suddenly to 95% and says

"installationsschritt fehlgeschlagen"
eg. a part of the installation has failed. .... failed has ... Software selection and installation (Software auswählen und installieren)


Thanks


https://wiki.debian.org/MacMiniIntel#Macmini_1.2C1

Current image should be this one http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/cur ... etinst.iso

There is Debian 9 mac-i386 too, so these installers are recommended for you.

There is no reason to use Squeeze, other than if you like original Gnome 2 or Squeeze's out of the box artwork maybe :D If that is the case install Jessie MATE and change artwork, that would feels like almost the same i guess, blah, blah...
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Re: Debian Squeeze - Backports - where? gone?

Postby Zapper » 2017-05-05 20:49

mrkapqa wrote:debian squeeze worked best and is best for this computer so far according to my experience; with wheezy, although a great OS ,
it was more difficult and slow, and 64bit installer dvd won't start altogether (the cpu is 64bit now)
i tried lubuntu 12.04 which is great ,
but debian squeeze is just way more appealing and snappy and first and foremost it is rock"stable" meaning i didn't have problems with crashes or problems with kernel after upgrade etc.

one example : the installed voip program that comes out of the box with squeeze just works and quite never failed one me;
after upgrading to wheezy, the same programs quit to work; and installing linphone etc. became a sort of adventure as i had to rely on external ppa to get a proper version. the basic version that wheezy has 3.5.1 has some flaws when setting up account with wizard.

again, i too like progress, but sometimes it just comes not at the right time.


It's just a thought but maybe jessie or if you are like me, stretch but install lxde first if you install stretch or you will not have wifi!
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