New Debian 9. root disabled and user not in sudo! What the?!

[techay]

I don't want to give a stupid advise but... Are you sure you are using the same keyboard layout as the installer was using? I've had some issues in the past that for reason or another, my native (Finnish) keyboard is not properly used by the installer even though I've selected it for use. Might want to check on that, especially if you've already tried reinstall once.

It's a fair question if you have not read anything I have previously mentioned.

This bug is reproducible, follow the steps I have taken with the Debian 9.0.1 / AMD64 / XFCE

[techay]

I am NOT going to mark this as solved - not until this bug still exists on the latest OS.

4 installations to get it working is ******* unacceptable.

And to the admin who blocked my other forum thread which was to highlight the fix for this bug - stop being defensive, suck it up and et over yourself.

Goodbye

[HuangLao]

is this the future of Debian forum posts as more *buntu users try Debian?

This person clearly messed up the install, which is evident from his OP and subsequent rant responses, then blames Debian dev's.
http://www.microhowto.info/howto/reset_ ... ution.html
https://unix.stackexchange.com/question ... t-password
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Change_Root



Now its solved...PS this could also be the image of systemd development....

[dasein]

I have no idea why no-one else is experiencing this madness.

Cosmic Coincidence.

tbh, I don't have the time nor patience

And yet you seem to have ample time to whine. Localized temporal distortion, no doubt.

[Seventh]

I believe it is safer to leave the root account disabled and just use command

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sudo -i

if you want root access from the user.

[Seventh]

Id recommend OP go back and read the debian sudo wiki page.

https://wiki.debian.org/sudo

[Dai_trying]

Ok, I originally thought the op was a little less than gracious about his FREE operating system and it's use, but having installed Stretch from the (updated) live iso (Xfce) I can confirm that this is a problem and it does exist!

If you install and give the root password during the installation then no entry is made for the new user in the sudoers file, which coupled with the root account not being accessible (su gives su: Authentication failure) the system now becomes non administrative!! The user cannot add him/herself to the sudoers file yet there is no way you can become root to make this change either! You are not allowed to log in as root so that is also out of the question (invalid password but entered correctly).

Surely there must be some apologies to the OP for the ridicule that has been posted here.

Id recommend OP go back and read the debian sudo wiki page.

https://wiki.debian.org/sudo

Really?!?!

Surely if you enter a root password during the install then the root account should not be disabled in an way, after all isn't that the point of setting a password here, so that users who do not need access to the system cannot simply do what they want with sudo?

[Wheelerof4te]

I am glad that the OP was right. I already told him to report this bug, but you can do it too, Dai_trying.

As I have said previously, Debian Stretch was released way before it's time. Other issues might pass, but problem with privileges is a dire problem indeed.

[hadrons123]

I have this issue as well. I cant login to my root account through bash with my root password. None of the TTYs work either. Its a bug and I don't see any bug report on this. Maybe I have to file one.

[orythem27]

Strange. I guess a problem with debian installation process tends to go unnoticed among experienced users. Since debian is usually so rock solid that once installed, you typically don't have to touch the installer again for a long long time.

[GarryRicketson]

Post by wizard10000 » 2017-06-22 10:06
What's the common thread here? Is it only the XFCE live image?

No it is not just the XFCE live image,....

There were / are several problems associated with the Debian live images,
some have been fixed, others are still being worked on.
See the "errata" thread, here:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/relea ... so-hybrid/

Also some discussion here:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2017 ... 00039.html

Hi folks,

We found multiple issues in the live images released at the
weekend. Since then, I've been working on fixes for the worst
problems. I've just published a new set of images as 9.0.1. Here's a
summary of the issues found, and current status:
----snip-----

There are new images available, but if it was me, I would give this more time, or
try using a different image, and not the live images , just yet.

[hadrons123]

I have issues with Mate and Gnome desktop live images. Are other people having the same issue?

[HuangLao]

In general it is a good policy to use Live CD's for testing etc...and use the installation CD for installing the OS. Live CD's are notorious for having problems, its the main reason why openSUSE stopped creating them officially.

[hadrons123]

the root disabled in terminal and TTYs is unacceptable and it is not specific to Live CD, I guess.

[HuangLao]

the root disabled in terminal and TTYs is unacceptable and it is not specific to Live CD, I guess.

just did an install in VM from minimal install CD and it worked fine.

[Lysander]

I love the slow proliferation of the term "unacceptable" for an operating system which is literally given away.

[hadrons123]

Well my term may not be politically correct , but the bug is grave and its not expected in a highly reputed Debian Distribution final version iso

[GarryRicketson]

I have issues with Mate and Gnome desktop live images. Are other people having the same issue?

Yes , well, I don't know if the issues are the same as yours, but yes others are having problems, and they are working on fixing the problems.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2017 ... 00039.html

See this:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/relea ... so-hybrid/

6. The root directory of the live images has very restrictive permissions

Status: Fixed in 9.0.1

The root directory is mode 0700 (i.e. drwx------)

See #865386.

[sunrat]

Maybe you could set the root password after installation. Worth trying:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/re ... t_password

[HuangLao]

I just did an install (VM and bare metal) from debian-live-9.0.1-amd64-xfce.iso:
runs fine from live mode, however, as others have stated when you install it, the root password even though set during install flags an authentication error when attempting su from cli. This was apparently fixed according to links posted in other responses, however, fixed it is not.

So installing from liveCD even from the ncurses installer not live mode is a no-go for now. Also, as someone else mentioned, running liveCD there is no option to install from live environment, one could always reboot and choose install but ...