[SOLVED] stretch release candidate no longer updates

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[SOLVED] stretch release candidate no longer updates

Postby sgian » 2017-07-07 21:58

How do I get updates for my stretch release candidate installations? They aren't happening that I am aware of, but I am not the one using those computers most of the time. Here is my sources.list
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deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch main contrib non-free

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch-updates main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free

I've been researching how the sources are supposed to be set up for stretch, but I haven't figured it out yet. Am I doing something wrong? I've also googled this without finding the answer.

uname -a
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Linux intelkitdeb9rc3 4.9.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u2 (2017-06-26) x86_64 GNU/Linux

Am I correct in thinking that the kernel has not updated in two weeks? It is July 7th today, so shouldn't the kernel be newer than June 26th?
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Re: stretch release candidate no longer updates

Postby Lysander » 2017-07-07 22:43

There are no updates yet because no updates have been released. I would strongly suggest you check the first link in my sig.

As for your kernel, 4.9 has been decided as the kernel for Stretch. It won't update. Likewise 3.16 is the kernel for Jessie [Debian 8] and has remained so since 2015.
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Re: stretch release candidate no longer updates

Postby Bulkley » 2017-07-07 23:17

There's no reason why you should but if you want a newer kernel get one from Liquorix.
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Re: stretch release candidate no longer updates

Postby dasein » 2017-07-08 00:35

sgian wrote:Am I correct in thinking that the kernel has not updated in two weeks? It is July 7th today, so shouldn't the kernel be newer than June 26th?

There is no "release candidate" (and there never was). The freeze is over and Stretch is now Stable, which means that it now receives only security updates.

If you're confused by this answer, go spend a little time at the Debian Wiki and learn about Debian's release model.
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Re: stretch release candidate no longer updates

Postby sgian » 2017-07-08 03:29

I don't think anyone has understood. I don't want a newer kernel, I want the current kernel to receive updates. Any updates would be good, especially security updates. I only mentioned the kernel because I don't know how to check how recent my packages are in debian except perhaps the kernel. My desktop that I use regularly has the released (after June 18th) version of stretch and updates are available to install weekly. It is the other computers I have, which I installed release candidate 3 on before June 18th, that have the problem. Sometimes I notice an update is available on my computer (post June 18th release) so I update packages, then I go to another computer with the pre-June 18th release candidate installed and no updates are available on those computers.

Lysander--please follow this link https://www.debian.org/ and scroll down to "Security Advisories". You will then see packages that have updates for them. If you do
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apt update

in a terminal and there haven't been any updates for weeks, then you have the same problem I have on some of my computers. And it is a problem, we should be getting security updates since they are being released for debian stretch.

dasein--Debian called the testing releases they posted before June 18th "release candidate". It was to differentiate the release after June 18th from the various versions they posted before June 18th. I downloaded "release candidate 3" (rc3), and installed it on several computers. Those computers are not getting updates when I check in terminal with the command
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apt update
I just get the response that all packages are up to date. But I have another computer which has the stretch made available after June 18th, and that computer gets updates. If you don't believe me, maybe you will believe the debian website https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-ins ... 7/20170410 because that is the debian news release for the release candidate I have on some of my computers.
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Re: stretch release candidate no longer updates

Postby orythem27 » 2017-07-08 03:37

sgian wrote:Sometimes I notice an update is available on my computer (post June 18th release) so I update packages, then I go to another computer with the pre-June 18th release candidate installed and no updates are available on those computers.

Most likely they don't have the same set of pacakges installed.
For example, I also have two stretch systems. On 2017-07-06, one of them received Upgrade: libtiff5:amd64 (4.0.8-2, 4.0.8-2+deb9u1). The other system doesn't have libtiff5 installed, so it didn't receive this update.

sgian wrote:"Security Advisories". You will then see packages that have updates for them.

Do you have any package mentioned in those DSAs installed on your system? Any example?
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Re: stretch release candidate no longer updates

Postby Ardouos » 2017-07-08 05:49

Looks at your apt history.log and check if unattended-upgrades is installed and upgrading for you.
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Re: stretch release candidate no longer updates

Postby roseway » 2017-07-08 05:55

As for your kernel, 4.9 has been decided as the kernel for Stretch. It won't update.


That's not entirely true. The kernel packages in Stretch have the version number 4.9.0, but the kernels within those packages update over time while keeping the same package numbers, but with changing suffixes. The current kernel version is 4.9.30.
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Re: stretch release candidate no longer updates

Postby sgian » 2017-07-08 05:58

I have libgcrypt20 (Version: 1.7.6-2+deb9u1 which looks like the current version) on both stretch release candidate computers I have access to right now, but I don't remember updating them.

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less /var/log/apt/history.log

shows that unattended-upgrades is installing the updates for me. Thank you Ardouos, that is what is going on. Also thank you orythem27
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Re: stretch release candidate no longer updates

Postby Ardouos » 2017-07-08 11:47

sgian wrote:I have libgcrypt20 (Version: 1.7.6-2+deb9u1 which looks like the current version) on both stretch release candidate computers I have access to right now, but I don't remember updating them.

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less /var/log/apt/history.log

shows that unattended-upgrades is installing the updates for me. Thank you Ardouos, that is what is going on. Also thank you orythem27



No problem, you can reconfigure or remove the unattended-upgrade package if you want to start updating manually.
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Re: stretch release candidate no longer updates

Postby dasein » 2017-07-08 12:56

sgian wrote:I don't think anyone has understood.

If everyone is misunderstanding you, then that offers an important clue as to the likely source of the problem.

sgian wrote:My desktop that I use regularly has the released (after June 18th) version of stretch and updates are available to install weekly.

Ah-ha. Then your problem may or may not actually be solved. Post separately for each machine the output of:
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cat /etc/apt/sources.list

Don't make it hard; use [code] boxes and label each output clearly.

sgian wrote:dasein--Debian called the testing releases they posted before June 18th "release candidate".

No. The installer has RCs, not the distro.

sgian wrote:It was to differentiate the release after June 18th from the various versions they posted before June 18th.

:lol: That's called a release.

sgian wrote:If you don't believe me, maybe you will believe the debian website https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2017/20170410 because that is the debian news release for the release candidate I have on some of my computers.

Ditch the attitude, clean your glasses if need be, and look long and hard at the URL you provided, which I've obligingly reproduced immediately above. See if you can find the word "installer" hiding somewhere in there (kind of like "Where's Waldo?").

(P.S. Just in case it isn't obvious, regardless of your level of experience with other distros, you are nowhere near familiar enough with subtleties of Debian to be arguing with everyone who tries to help you.)
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