When installing, there is an option saying "system utilities". I'm wondering what that is. I've read this: http://csmojo.com/posts/what-debian-sta ... clude.html and it says a few things about what's missing if you don't install it, but the question is:
I installed the system without it, and I'm missing '"ifconfig" and "less" (that I know of). Are those two included in system utilities or is it just Debian that doesn't have them?
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System utilities
Re: System utilities
Yes, less is marked 'priority standard' I don't have a list handy but that would be one way to look them up. It's probably on the wiki.
ifconfig is not included because they are trying to encourage the use of ip now. https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ ... l#iproute2
ifconfig is not included because they are trying to encourage the use of ip now. https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ ... l#iproute2
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Re: System utilities
In the link you posted, it shows a list of what is included:Are those two included in system utilities or is it just Debian that doesn't have them?
They are not in the list, but since that is not clear enough,It will list what is included in "standard system utilities":
Maybe this will answer your questions:
https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install- ... bian-linux
The same above link, will also point you here:The ifconfig command has been deprecated and thus missing by default on Debian Linux, starting from Debian stretch.
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/net-tools
If you want the 'less' command, you need to install it:This includes arp, ifconfig, netstat, rarp, nameif and route. Additionally, this package contains utilities relating to particular network hardware types (plipconfig, slattach, mii-tool) and advanced aspects of IP configuration (iptunnel, ipmaddr).
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/less
The 'more' command , should be included in a default installation,pager program similar to more
This package provides "less", a file pager (that is, a memory-efficient utility for displaying text one screenful at a time). Less has many more features than the basic pager "more". As part of the GNU project, it is widely regarded as the standard pager on UNIX-derived systems.
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man more
there is an option saying "system utilities"
"system utilities" option, will not make any difference. You will need to install
the other packages as well,.
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Re: System utilities
Great! I've been having a hard time setting up the network, and I don't have Ethernet so I couldn't install the net-tools. I'll give iproute2 a shot.
I have been using the "more" command anyways, which is sort of crucial since I don't have a desktop, but I was wondering about "less".
Just to be clear, the system utilities are just "commands"? Or is there something else?
Thanks for the answers!
I have been using the "more" command anyways, which is sort of crucial since I don't have a desktop, but I was wondering about "less".
Just to be clear, the system utilities are just "commands"? Or is there something else?
Thanks for the answers!
Re: System utilities
After lookng at the wiki, it seems that tasksel "system utilities" might be related to what used to be a special task that installs pkgs marked "standard, required, important."CarterCox wrote:Great! I've been having a hard time setting up the network, and I don't have Ethernet so I couldn't install the net-tools. I'll give iproute2 a shot.
I have been using the "more" command anyways, which is sort of crucial since I don't have a desktop, but I was wondering about "less".
Just to be clear, the system utilities are just "commands"? Or is there something else?
Thanks for the answers!
I think it would be a good idea to always install with this selected during installation. i don't know how to do it after install though.
You can find them with the command:
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aptitude search ~prequired ~pimportant ~pstandard
https://wiki.debian.org/tasksel#A.22standard.22_task
"standard" task The standard task is a special task used by Debian Installer. It actually relies on the packages' priority. What does the "standard system" task include? tasksel --task-packages standard * ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant
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Re: System utilities
It is probably a good idea to install the, but I want to have as little as possible installed. That's why I'm using Debian and that's why I'm looking to install LXDE-core as the DE.
If I ever find myself missing some commands I'll install them one by one. For now I'll try to get my network connection up and running
If I ever find myself missing some commands I'll install them one by one. For now I'll try to get my network connection up and running