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[SOLVED-for now] The ultimate package building laptop?

Postby stevepusser » 2018-03-12 23:07

I was looking at the System76 Serval WS with an 8th Generation i7 desktop CPU (4.3 Ghz Turbo, 6 cores, 12 threads), 16 GB RAM, and a 256 GB NvME SSD. That looks like a beast. Does anyone have any alternate suggestions?

Update and resolution: it was worth waiting a bit--I just had this ordered: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BWF4H3W/re ... =UTF8&th=1

Much lighter than the Serval, I could buy two for the price of one Serval,( money is definitely an object here) and the battery life should be much, much longer, especially since I should be able to use the Intel GPU on it most of the time. The SSD is probably considerably slower than the Serval's, though.

No doubt I'll see some much better laptop tomorrow... :D
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Re: The ultimate compiling laptop?

Postby pawRoot » 2018-03-13 00:26

3.4kg holy crap :mrgreen:
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Re: The ultimate compiling laptop?

Postby stevepusser » 2018-03-13 01:26

pawRoot wrote:3.4kg holy crap :mrgreen:


Yeah, another review said the 230 watt power brick is the size of an actual brick. I wonder if the two extra cores is worth the cost and weight penalty over a conventional powerful mobile laptop.
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Re: The ultimate compiling laptop?

Postby pawRoot » 2018-03-13 02:14

I would rather go for more mobility, but if you need some much power...
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Re: The ultimate compiling laptop?

Postby alan stone » 2018-03-13 09:30

stevepusser wrote:Does anyone have any alternate suggestions?

An off-lease laptop workhorse with (nearly) the same, or to (nearly) the same upgradable, characteristics.

EDIT: added (nearly)
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Re: The ultimate compiling laptop?

Postby stevepusser » 2018-03-13 18:56

pawRoot wrote:I would rather go for more mobility, but if you need some much power...


Yeah, I'm doing lots of kernels and browser builds for MX Linux, so the more power, the better. Something like pure Python packages take only a few seconds, since they don't compile. I did the llvm-5.0 toolchain a few weeks ago, and that took many hours on my current laptop for the 32 and 64-bit builds.

I saw one reviewer say that the eighth generation Intel chips have almost double the number crunching power of the seventh generation, which would also be nice.
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Re: The ultimate compiling laptop?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-03-13 19:24

What framerate you getting in CS:GO? :mrgreen:

That's a beast...
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Re: The ultimate compiling laptop?

Postby stevepusser » 2018-03-13 20:27

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:What framerate you getting in CS:GO? :mrgreen:

That's a beast...


Hey, it's about building six kernels in ~ 30 minutes instead of 6 1/2 hours!
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Re: The ultimate compiling laptop?

Postby Wheelerof4te » 2018-03-13 20:38

OS: Pop!_OS 17.10 or Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
Processor: 8th gen Intel...
Me: Yeah, right...with like 4.13 and 4.10 kernels? BS
Bonus brownie points for using Nvidia card on a Linux machine.
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Re: The ultimate compiling laptop?

Postby stevepusser » 2018-03-13 20:50

Wheelerof4te wrote:OS: Pop!_OS 17.10 or Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
Processor: 8th gen Intel...
Me: Yeah, right...with like 4.13 and 4.10 kernels? BS
Bonus brownie points for using Nvidia card on a Linux machine.


I'm not going to be using the OS that it comes with, of course, plus Ubuntu users aren't stuck with those kernels any more than Debian users. I'm not using the Win10 that came with my current machine. I just would prefer a machine that has Linux-proven hardware, and to support an manufacturer that supports Linux.
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Re: The ultimate compiling laptop?

Postby Wheelerof4te » 2018-03-13 20:58

stevepusser wrote:I just would prefer a machine that has Linux-proven hardware, and to support an manufacturer that supports Linux.

A true and noble reason ;)
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Re: The ultimate compiling laptop?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-03-13 21:35

stevepusser wrote:to support an manufacturer that supports Linux

Then why the NVIDIA card?

Anyway, surely Ryzen would be a better bet after the Meltdown fiasco? :twisted:
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Re: The ultimate compiling laptop?

Postby pawRoot » 2018-03-13 21:45

I have ATI GPU and the drivers are so bad that Intel iGPU has better performance in Linux ...
So i guess Nvidia is best choice, f*** AMD.
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Re: The ultimate compiling laptop?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-03-13 22:11

pawRoot wrote:So i guess Nvidia is best choice, f*** AMD.

That is a ridiculous attitude for a Debian user to have.

AMD have recently open-sourced their driver and it is now better than the proprietary version in every way.

https://packages.debian.org/stretch/xse ... deo-amdgpu

Since when did NVIDIA contribute to the Nouveau project or release their source code? :x
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Re: The ultimate compiling laptop?

Postby pawRoot » 2018-03-13 22:15

It is attitude of someone who can't use his GPU under linux because the drivers are so bad.
I have tried both closed and open drivers, and in CS GO amd has worse performance than intel iGPU
as i said above.

With Nvidia i was getting same performance as on Windows.
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