Strange dependencies - why?

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Strange dependencies - why?

Postby geobeck » 2018-03-31 14:45

I'm trying to remove software I'm never going to use, but the system seems to insist that I need it.

For example, if I tell Synaptic to completely remove Thunderbird, it wants to install Evolution. If I tell it to remove Pidgin, it wants to remove the entire Cinnamon desktop!

How do I remove superfluous software without adding more stuff I don't need, and without removing my entire desktop environment?
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Re: Strange dependencies - why?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-03-31 14:46

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=104157

EDIT: I would recommend installing exactly what you want (with no metapackages at all) manually from a bare netinstall with everything except "standard system utilities" unchecked in tasksel.
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Re: Strange dependencies - why?

Postby geobeck » 2018-03-31 14:59

Thanks. I'm going to dig around and see what configuration I can make work.

It's not like I don't have the space; I just don't want a system padded with a bunch of stuff I'm not going to use.
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Re: Strange dependencies - why?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-03-31 15:07

geobeck wrote:I just don't want a system padded with a bunch of stuff I'm not going to use.

Oh I quite understand — perhaps sir might also be interested in apt's --no-install-recommends flag? :mrgreen:

See also https://superuser.com/questions/615565/ ... recommends
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Re: Strange dependencies - why?

Postby Bulkley » 2018-03-31 15:20

HOWTO: Speeding up Debian

This old thread has lots of tips for cleaning up Debian. Read the whole thread and take notes before stabbing in the dark.
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Re: Strange dependencies - why?

Postby geobeck » 2018-03-31 16:40

Thanks for the great suggestions. That speed-up thread contains a lot more than I'll probably do, but it's got some great individual tips, in particular the /etc/hosts ad-blocker.
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Re: Strange dependencies - why?

Postby SlidingHorn » 2018-03-31 16:57

Bulkley wrote:HOWTO: Speeding up Debian

This old thread has lots of tips for cleaning up Debian. Read the whole thread and take notes before stabbing in the dark.


This....this is beautiful. :D
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Re: Strange dependencies - why?

Postby Wheelerof4te » 2018-03-31 20:00

^That guide is quite old and many things have changed from then. Mainly, we have systemd now.

Use netinstall image as H.o.a.S suggested.
Install minimal system by leaving only standard system utilities checked. Then, at first CLI boot, install Cinnamon desktop first.
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apt install cinnamon

Make sure to delete everything in /etc/network/interfaces before rebooting.
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nano /etc/network/interfaces
reboot

Now you have a minimal Cinnamon install from where you can add anything you need.
Same thing with GNOME (using gnome-core) and KDE (kde-plasma-desktop).
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