[Solved] Advice for securing data

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[Solved] Advice for securing data

Postby Hallvor » 2018-09-03 13:46

I have got a Packard Bell TE69KB. It is ugly, it is slow, but it is good enough to keep in the cabin. However, I am concerned someone might steal it and recover my passwords and data.

Normally, I would just do an encrypted install, but there are a couple of problems:

1. I can not enter the BIOS to change the boot order. The password is long forgotten. (What a great idea that was...)
2. It will not boot from CD-Rom.
3. I therefore do not know how to make a reinstall. (I was able to install Debian Stretch from CD-Rom a few months ago when there was no OS on the HDD, however, but am a little reluctant to do it again, if that should fail.)

Is there an easy and safe way to encrypt the home partition, or should I wipe the current install and hope it is possible to reinstall...? Any advice?
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Re: Advice for securing data

Postby CwF » 2018-09-03 14:02

reset the bios? find the jumper or contact pad, pull the battery, whatever. Always worked for me.

Then full disk encryption.
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Re: Advice for securing data

Postby Hallvor » 2018-09-03 15:28

I removed the CMOS battery and put it back in. Now it will not boot anything, not even the HDD.

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Re: Advice for securing data

Postby CwF » 2018-09-03 15:54

? That's past the post screen, yes? When it boots press F2 or F12 before the screen you see there...
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Re: Advice for securing data

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Re: Advice for securing data

Postby Hallvor » 2018-09-03 16:12

CwF wrote:? That's past the post screen, yes? When it boots press F2 or F12 before the screen you see there...


F2 will just ask for a BIOS password, which I do not have. F12 does nothing at all.

When it boots, I only get two options.

1: The HDD (with Debian). It gives me an error. See screenshot above.
2. The external CD-ROM with Debian Stretch Netinstall. It gives the same error as above.
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Re: Advice for securing data

Postby Hallvor » 2018-09-03 16:13



Thanks for the tip.
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Re: Advice for securing data

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-09-03 16:19

Hallvor wrote:I removed the CMOS battery and put it back in. Now it will not boot anything, not even the HDD.

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Disable Secure Boot.

If it still wants a password then maybe you need to trip the reset with a jumper (if the machine has one).
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Re: Advice for securing data

Postby CwF » 2018-09-03 16:31

Hallvor wrote:r a BIOS password, which I do not have. F12 does nothing at all.


Then the battery trick did nothing. Search around a bit, I see that there is talk of a different bios for this issue and unlock instructions. I searched "TE69KB clear bios" and seems plenty. I'm low bandwidth so you do the clicking!

Check for a cmos jumper and also the default password in case that's all it it.
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Re: Advice for securing data

Postby Hallvor » 2018-09-03 17:23

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Hallvor wrote:I removed the CMOS battery and put it back in. Now it will not boot anything, not even the HDD.

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Disable Secure Boot.

If it still wants a password then maybe you need to trip the reset with a jumper (if the machine has one).


It is impossible to disable Secure Boot without a password. I'll try resetting it with a jumper and let you know how it goes.
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Re: Advice for securing data

Postby debiman » 2018-09-03 17:40

the trick with the cmos battery: i keep reading you should keep it removed for quite a long while, like 30min or so. you can also short circuit the battery contacts, a little easier than searching for jumpers.

i also read that it doesn't always help. certainly hasn't helped last time i tried it.
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Re: Advice for securing data

Postby Hallvor » 2018-09-03 19:26

debiman wrote:the trick with the cmos battery: i keep reading you should keep it removed for quite a long while, like 30min or so. you can also short circuit the battery contacts, a little easier than searching for jumpers.

i also read that it doesn't always help. certainly hasn't helped last time i tried it.


Yes, maybe I didn't remove it long enough. It was only out for 30 seconds or so.
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Re: Advice for securing data

Postby Hallvor » 2018-09-04 14:23

Well, I took out the main battery, left the CMOS battery out for halv and hour and held the power button for 30 seconds to deplete any power. It did not help. I think I may be out of luck on this computer.
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Re: Advice for securing data

Postby Dai_trying » 2018-09-04 15:36

I saw this web page that might have some useful information for you including some default BIOS passwords and a few methods to clear the settings. You might have already seen it but as have seen no mentions of pages that might help I thought I would post this one.
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Re: Advice for securing data

Postby Hallvor » 2018-09-04 17:21

Dai_trying wrote:I saw this web page that might have some useful information for you including some default BIOS passwords and a few methods to clear the settings. You might have already seen it but as have seen no mentions of pages that might help I thought I would post this one.


Yes, yes, yes! I got into the BIOS! After a few failed password attempts, there was a numeral code. I visited https://bios-pw.org/ , entered the code and was presented with two passwords I could try to unlock it. The very first one worked! :D Thanks!

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