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Successful Install BUT

Postby send2gl » 2020-03-12 17:07

Folks,

Long time Ubuntu user but thought I'd give a proper Debian a test drive.

Installation went fine, all seems to be good but couple of small hiccups.

Ctrl-Alt-T does not bring up a terminal although in keyboard settings it seems to be set correctly.

Installed net-tools using sudo apt-get install net-tools(for ifconfig), shows as successful but if I type ifconfig at command line says command not found.

Any ideas what may be wrong?

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Re: Successful Install BUT

Postby arochester » 2020-03-12 17:37

Ctrl-Alt-T does not bring up a terminal although in keyboard settings it seems to be set correctly.

Isn't that a 'buntu thing?

Installed net-tools using sudo apt-get install net-tools(for ifconfig), shows as successful but if I type ifconfig at command line says command not found.

Deprecated? See e.g. https://www.tecmint.com/deprecated-linu ... lacements/
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Re: Successful Install BUT

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-03-12 17:42

send2gl wrote:Long time Ubuntu user

Yeah, it shows...

send2gl wrote:Ctrl-Alt-T does not bring up a terminal although in keyboard settings it seems to be set correctly.

How did you set it "correctly"? What did you do, exactly? And which desktop environment is this? Debian is not as limited as Ubuntu and offers the user *many* options in that respect.

send2gl wrote:Installed net-tools using sudo apt-get install net-tools(for ifconfig), shows as successful but if I type ifconfig at command line says command not found.

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sudo which ifconfig
echo $PATH

send2gl wrote:Any ideas what may be wrong?

Debian is intended for competent GNU/Linux users, perhaps go back to Ubuntu until you actually know what you're doing.

Until then please edit the thread title to accurately describe the problem at hand and in future restrict yourself to a single issue per thread.
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Re: Successful Install BUT

Postby Deb-fan » 2020-03-12 19:06

^ Jebuz someborgy woke up on the wrong side of the pod, recharge station or wherever cyborgs "sleep" this morning. :P Grouchy, grouchy ... dam. Guys first post, let's see if bothers making another one ? Definitely helps knowing which desktop is in use, the process of setting keyboard (keybinds) shortcuts is surely well documented for whatever DE's. The not found thing often happens when running commands a user needs privileges (sudo or root) to use. Run it with privs and works though. Always good knowing this or that has been deprecated too. Doesn't mean, doesn't keep working fine regardless, has to mean time has come to show that area some attention, find out why and what's favored as newer or better meant to fulfill that function. :)
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Re: Successful Install BUT

Postby sgage » 2020-03-12 19:42

arochester wrote:
Ctrl-Alt-T does not bring up a terminal although in keyboard settings it seems to be set correctly.

Isn't that a 'buntu thing?

Installed net-tools using sudo apt-get install net-tools(for ifconfig), shows as successful but if I type ifconfig at command line says command not found.

Deprecated? See e.g. https://www.tecmint.com/deprecated-linu ... lacements/


Ctrl-Alt-T brings up a terminal on my buster install - I just checked.
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Re: Successful Install BUT

Postby MagicPoulp » 2020-03-12 19:51

xfce is an environement that looks really nice.

And ctrl alt t opens a teminal.

if you install apt-file

then you can search for commands or files inside packages.
apt-file search ifconfig

and you will find the right package.

sometimes commands are in /usr/sbin that i not in the path. But a good debian install should not have this problem.

Try to find the offical debian doc in pdf. THey explain ba lot.
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Re: Successful Install BUT

Postby Deb-fan » 2020-03-12 19:58

Any given desktop or window manager is subject to having preset shortcuts, any should also have a fairly straightforward way for users to add custom keybinds too o course. Figuring those out is generally self explanatory with a lil effort and bound to be well doc'ed on top of. Lol. ever had one of those why did I waste 30secs posting something moments? I just had one. :) Time to shut it, still it was the over the top, uncalled for harshness by Mr Purple, prompted posting any way. Pretty nasty and petty, esp for someone representing a forum, community and a gnu/nix distro as a moderator.
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Re: Successful Install BUT

Postby send2gl » 2020-03-12 20:38

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
send2gl wrote:Long time Ubuntu user


Until then please edit the thread title to accurately describe the problem at hand and in future restrict yourself to a single issue per thread.


Oh, here we go, is this your way of welcoming new users to the group.

Ctrl-Alt-T works with Ubuntu, Fedora KDE, PCLinuxOS, Manjaro and the Raspberry Pi Raspian so don't give me all this 'it shows lark'.

If you don't want to answer just leave it, or go on to Twitter where insults are the norm.

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Re: Successful Install BUT

Postby send2gl » 2020-03-12 20:40

arochester wrote:
Ctrl-Alt-T does not bring up a terminal although in keyboard settings it seems to be set correctly.

Isn't that a 'buntu thing?

Installed net-tools using sudo apt-get install net-tools(for ifconfig), shows as successful but if I type ifconfig at command line says command not found.

Deprecated? See e.g. https://www.tecmint.com/deprecated-linu ... lacements/


Seems if I type the prefix sudo it works fine so that is that one solved.

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Re: Successful Install BUT

Postby send2gl » 2020-03-12 20:42

arochester wrote:
Ctrl-Alt-T does not bring up a terminal although in keyboard settings it seems to be set correctly.

Isn't that a 'buntu thing?

Might be but is also a Raspian, Fedora, PCLinuxOS and Manjaru thing.

Installed net-tools using sudo apt-get install net-tools(for ifconfig), shows as successful but if I type ifconfig at command line says command not found.

Deprecated? See e.g. https://www.tecmint.com/deprecated-linu ... lacements/


Yes, I knew it was apparently deprecated so that's why I mentioned I installed net-tools

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Re: Successful Install BUT

Postby send2gl » 2020-03-12 20:47

Deb-fan wrote:^ Jebuz someborgy woke up on the wrong side of the pod, recharge station or wherever cyborgs "sleep" this morning. :P Grouchy, grouchy ... dam. Guys first post, let's see if bothers making another one ? Definitely helps knowing which desktop is in use, the process of setting keyboard (keybinds) shortcuts is surely well documented for whatever DE's. The not found thing often happens when running commands a user needs privileges (sudo or root) to use. Run it with privs and works though. Always good knowing this or that has been deprecated too. Doesn't mean, doesn't keep working fine regardless, has to mean time has come to show that area some attention, find out why and what's favored as newer or better meant to fulfill that function. :)


Thanks for 'friendly' message. It is the Cinnamon desktop.

Seems the ifconfig works if preceeded with sudo so that's solved.

Under Preferences, Keyboards, shortcuts, launchers and 'Launch Terminal' it shows Ctrl-Alt-T

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Re: Successful Install BUT

Postby send2gl » 2020-03-12 20:49

MagicPoulp wrote:if you install apt-file

then you can search for commands or files inside packages.
apt-file search ifconfig

and you will find the right package.

sometimes commands are in /usr/sbin that i not in the path. But a good debian install should not have this problem.

Try to find the offical debian doc in pdf. THey explain ba lot.


Thank you, shall try that.

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Re: Successful Install BUT

Postby sunrat » 2020-03-12 21:35

To see if a directory eg. /usr/sbin/ is in your path, do
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echo ${PATH}


You might be experiencing this - viewtopic.php?f=16&t=142973

Ctrl-Alt-T brings up a terminal in Buster with KDE Plasma here, as normal user. Maybe it's a weird Cinnamon thing, i never used it.
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Re: Successful Install BUT

Postby Deb-fan » 2020-03-13 00:56

If this is still an issue, something else to check, the actual config file or in it's(cinnamons) settings, what's that key-combo bound to, what is it trying to launch, x-terminal-emulator, setup to launch some other term, it's installed?
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Re: Successful Install BUT

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-03-13 17:26

send2gl wrote:is this your way of welcoming new users to the group

Help vampires like you are not welcome here.

This is not the Ubuntu forums and this is not your personal help desk. These forums are not paid for by donations and are intended as a community resource so please conduct yourself accordingly and make more of an effort (which is to say any effort at all) or just **** off. Thanks.

send2gl wrote:If you don't want to answer just leave it

I did answer, and I showed you exactly what was wrong with your attempts to run ifconfig(8). You just couldn't be bothered expending the effort required to understand my post.
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