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Successful Install BUT

#1 Post by send2gl »

Folks,

Long time Ubuntu user but thought I'd give a proper Debian a test drive.

Installation went fine, all seems to be good but couple of small hiccups.

Ctrl-Alt-T does not bring up a terminal although in keyboard settings it seems to be set correctly.

Installed net-tools using sudo apt-get install net-tools(for ifconfig), shows as successful but if I type ifconfig at command line says command not found.

Any ideas what may be wrong?

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#2 Post by arochester »

Ctrl-Alt-T does not bring up a terminal although in keyboard settings it seems to be set correctly.
Isn't that a 'buntu thing?
Installed net-tools using sudo apt-get install net-tools(for ifconfig), shows as successful but if I type ifconfig at command line says command not found.
Deprecated? See e.g. https://www.tecmint.com/deprecated-linu ... lacements/

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#3 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

send2gl wrote:Long time Ubuntu user
Yeah, it shows...
send2gl wrote:Ctrl-Alt-T does not bring up a terminal although in keyboard settings it seems to be set correctly.
How did you set it "correctly"? What did you do, exactly? And which desktop environment is this? Debian is not as limited as Ubuntu and offers the user *many* options in that respect.
send2gl wrote:Installed net-tools using sudo apt-get install net-tools(for ifconfig), shows as successful but if I type ifconfig at command line says command not found.

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sudo which ifconfig
echo $PATH
send2gl wrote:Any ideas what may be wrong?
Debian is intended for competent GNU/Linux users, perhaps go back to Ubuntu until you actually know what you're doing.

Until then please edit the thread title to accurately describe the problem at hand and in future restrict yourself to a single issue per thread.
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#4 Post by Deb-fan »

^ Jebuz someborgy woke up on the wrong side of the pod, recharge station or wherever cyborgs "sleep" this morning. :P Grouchy, grouchy ... dam. Guys first post, let's see if bothers making another one ? Definitely helps knowing which desktop is in use, the process of setting keyboard (keybinds) shortcuts is surely well documented for whatever DE's. The not found thing often happens when running commands a user needs privileges (sudo or root) to use. Run it with privs and works though. Always good knowing this or that has been deprecated too. Doesn't mean, doesn't keep working fine regardless, has to mean time has come to show that area some attention, find out why and what's favored as newer or better meant to fulfill that function. :)
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#5 Post by sgage »

arochester wrote:
Ctrl-Alt-T does not bring up a terminal although in keyboard settings it seems to be set correctly.
Isn't that a 'buntu thing?
Installed net-tools using sudo apt-get install net-tools(for ifconfig), shows as successful but if I type ifconfig at command line says command not found.
Deprecated? See e.g. https://www.tecmint.com/deprecated-linu ... lacements/
Ctrl-Alt-T brings up a terminal on my buster install - I just checked.

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#6 Post by MagicPoulp »

xfce is an environement that looks really nice.

And ctrl alt t opens a teminal.

if you install apt-file

then you can search for commands or files inside packages.
apt-file search ifconfig

and you will find the right package.

sometimes commands are in /usr/sbin that i not in the path. But a good debian install should not have this problem.

Try to find the offical debian doc in pdf. THey explain ba lot.

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#7 Post by Deb-fan »

Any given desktop or window manager is subject to having preset shortcuts, any should also have a fairly straightforward way for users to add custom keybinds too o course. Figuring those out is generally self explanatory with a lil effort and bound to be well doc'ed on top of. Lol. ever had one of those why did I waste 30secs posting something moments? I just had one. :) Time to shut it, still it was the over the top, uncalled for harshness by Mr Purple, prompted posting any way. Pretty nasty and petty, esp for someone representing a forum, community and a gnu/nix distro as a moderator.
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#8 Post by send2gl »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
send2gl wrote:Long time Ubuntu user
Until then please edit the thread title to accurately describe the problem at hand and in future restrict yourself to a single issue per thread.
Oh, here we go, is this your way of welcoming new users to the group.

Ctrl-Alt-T works with Ubuntu, Fedora KDE, PCLinuxOS, Manjaro and the Raspberry Pi Raspian so don't give me all this 'it shows lark'.

If you don't want to answer just leave it, or go on to Twitter where insults are the norm.

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#9 Post by send2gl »

arochester wrote:
Ctrl-Alt-T does not bring up a terminal although in keyboard settings it seems to be set correctly.
Isn't that a 'buntu thing?
Installed net-tools using sudo apt-get install net-tools(for ifconfig), shows as successful but if I type ifconfig at command line says command not found.
Deprecated? See e.g. https://www.tecmint.com/deprecated-linu ... lacements/
Seems if I type the prefix sudo it works fine so that is that one solved.

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#10 Post by send2gl »

arochester wrote:
Ctrl-Alt-T does not bring up a terminal although in keyboard settings it seems to be set correctly.
Isn't that a 'buntu thing?

Might be but is also a Raspian, Fedora, PCLinuxOS and Manjaru thing.
Installed net-tools using sudo apt-get install net-tools(for ifconfig), shows as successful but if I type ifconfig at command line says command not found.
Deprecated? See e.g. https://www.tecmint.com/deprecated-linu ... lacements/
Yes, I knew it was apparently deprecated so that's why I mentioned I installed net-tools

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#11 Post by send2gl »

Deb-fan wrote:^ Jebuz someborgy woke up on the wrong side of the pod, recharge station or wherever cyborgs "sleep" this morning. :P Grouchy, grouchy ... dam. Guys first post, let's see if bothers making another one ? Definitely helps knowing which desktop is in use, the process of setting keyboard (keybinds) shortcuts is surely well documented for whatever DE's. The not found thing often happens when running commands a user needs privileges (sudo or root) to use. Run it with privs and works though. Always good knowing this or that has been deprecated too. Doesn't mean, doesn't keep working fine regardless, has to mean time has come to show that area some attention, find out why and what's favored as newer or better meant to fulfill that function. :)
Thanks for 'friendly' message. It is the Cinnamon desktop.

Seems the ifconfig works if preceeded with sudo so that's solved.

Under Preferences, Keyboards, shortcuts, launchers and 'Launch Terminal' it shows Ctrl-Alt-T

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#12 Post by send2gl »

MagicPoulp wrote: if you install apt-file

then you can search for commands or files inside packages.
apt-file search ifconfig

and you will find the right package.

sometimes commands are in /usr/sbin that i not in the path. But a good debian install should not have this problem.

Try to find the offical debian doc in pdf. THey explain ba lot.
Thank you, shall try that.

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#13 Post by sunrat »

To see if a directory eg. /usr/sbin/ is in your path, do

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echo ${PATH}
You might be experiencing this - http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=142973

Ctrl-Alt-T brings up a terminal in Buster with KDE Plasma here, as normal user. Maybe it's a weird Cinnamon thing, i never used it.
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#14 Post by Deb-fan »

If this is still an issue, something else to check, the actual config file or in it's(cinnamons) settings, what's that key-combo bound to, what is it trying to launch, x-terminal-emulator, setup to launch some other term, it's installed?
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#15 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

send2gl wrote:is this your way of welcoming new users to the group
Help vampires like you are not welcome here.

This is not the Ubuntu forums and this is not your personal help desk. These forums are not paid for by donations and are intended as a community resource so please conduct yourself accordingly and make more of an effort (which is to say any effort at all) or just **** off. Thanks.
send2gl wrote:If you don't want to answer just leave it
I did answer, and I showed you exactly what was wrong with your attempts to run ifconfig(8). You just couldn't be bothered expending the effort required to understand my post.
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sunrat wrote:To see if a directory eg. /usr/sbin/ is in your path, do

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echo ${PATH}
You might be experiencing this - http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=142973

Ctrl-Alt-T brings up a terminal in Buster with KDE Plasma here, as normal user. Maybe it's a weird Cinnamon thing, i never used it.
Kopete was using Ctrl + Alt + T here, but it only took a few seconds to alter it.
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#17 Post by MagicPoulp »

send2gl. I helped you above you said thanks.

Welcome to debian. It isreally worth it to learn debian when you come from Ubuntu.

deb-fan knows and can help, but he is very sarcastic if you sue hte word windows.

Head on a stick help 10 people per day with stuck issues. But here people prefer to have one post per question, not many. that is why.

Chosing a good desktop env is important. IF youy pick xfce, you have something more raw. KDE and Gnome are the biggest but they have too much wird layers and crazy sounds.

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#18 Post by Turtletronic »

MagicPoulp wrote: Head on a stick help 10 people per day with stuck issues.
I do not care if he helps 10 or 100, his condescending tone and constant pointing at the rules does not allow him to tell people to "eff off", as he just did again.
He should get a dose of "watch your tone or get blocked for a week" like other fora offer to people like him.
OP did nothing to offend him, still he dishes out insults. Is that the "spirit" of Debian? Looking at recent forum posts here, you surely promote that.

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#19 Post by Deb-fan »

Think Head_on is a good guy, clearly intelligent, very knowledgeable nixer/techie. Any way it goes it's bad to flame others, w/o good reason. Still makes it worse when a mod does so. Obvious violation of forum rules and hypocrisy always leaves a bad taste in people's mouth. Participation is voluntary, we each get to decide which and what interests us enough to post to. Don't like someone's post, don't respond eh. Negativity spreads, has wider reaching impact then somebody may consider. Even when having a bad day or hard times make a coscious effort to treat people how I wish to be treated. The Golden rule.

Gnu/Linux addiction is a real thing, I know because I am one and nix forum addiction is too. Have firsthand experience with it. Had to quit cold turkey, continue doing so majority of the time. It can have a serious negative impact on someone's life taken too far. Also had to realise it was actually distracting me from the area of interest, gnu/nix and tech. All that time spent dorking in forums is/was time not being spent learning about gnu/Linux n tech. Another biggy reason for posting here, couldn't resist the urge to say someborgy, get it, someborgy instead of body? Been teasing Head_on for years that I think he's a cyborg. Probably would've never gotten another chance to use that joke again! :P
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#20 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Turtletronic wrote:He should get a dose of "watch your tone or get blocked for a week" like other fora offer to people like him.
Please don't refer to me using a male pronoun, I prefer "they". And the plural of forum is forums.

These boards favour freedom of expression rather than heavy-handed moderation and I for one really appreciate that stance. Rather than bitch and whine like a delicate little snowflake why not fire some insults back instead? I won't mind, I find such things amusing rather than offensive although such behaviour will lead to the thread being locked. Not that this particular thread contains anything of value anyway.

Just for the record: I do not represent Debian and I am not a moderator. My purple user name indicates that I am a "spam hunter", which is just a lowly menial task.
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