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Debian 10 falls asleep while coping files to it (network).
- millusions
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Re: Debian 10 falls asleep while coping files to it (network
bit tipsy now.
but that's my point, you can knock a GT730 but linux happily does 4k via HDMI with a GT710 or GT730,
the fact that you have 3 150Watt GPUs with very little to actually explain why.
ive been there myself, every machine had to have a K version of i7 and 32GB of RAM.
i'ts pointless.
don't think i havent researched this,
R9 270x adds 25Watts at idle, which is absolutely fine but you have to consider the reason, because at the end of the day it adds no value for that 25watts - absolutely zero.
so when you say stick a GPU stronger than a GT730 and 7 SSDs i just ask, but why? it's not about what the machine is capable of, it's about what it's designed to do
its awesome that you have 3 150 watt graphics processors, without a real reason why, just for a pissing contest.
have a good day!
but that's my point, you can knock a GT730 but linux happily does 4k via HDMI with a GT710 or GT730,
the fact that you have 3 150Watt GPUs with very little to actually explain why.
ive been there myself, every machine had to have a K version of i7 and 32GB of RAM.
i'ts pointless.
don't think i havent researched this,
R9 270x adds 25Watts at idle, which is absolutely fine but you have to consider the reason, because at the end of the day it adds no value for that 25watts - absolutely zero.
so when you say stick a GPU stronger than a GT730 and 7 SSDs i just ask, but why? it's not about what the machine is capable of, it's about what it's designed to do
its awesome that you have 3 150 watt graphics processors, without a real reason why, just for a pissing contest.
have a good day!
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Re: Debian 10 falls asleep while coping files to it (network
To do the job of 3 computers, that's why. You can have your own keyboard and trackball if you'd like, because that's what it's for. So when a screen is blank, it cost the wasted 15w. You come, sit, fire up your thing and it doesn't disturb me, the tivo, or anything as if it were another computer all together. I'm sure whatever you do will run close enough to full speed.millusions wrote: without a real reason why
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Re: Debian 10 falls asleep while coping files to it (network
yea. but when you say 'im sure'
i dont think you are sure
at all P
i dont think you are sure
at all P
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Re: Debian 10 falls asleep while coping files to it (network
I found my older notes;millusions wrote: 'im sure'
single video and one ssd thesystem would idle on a debian9 xfce desktop at .54A @ 123.4V
loaded under Queens it would pull 1.77A. So 67w - 220w.
A VM like a file server is hard to measure, a few watts certainly within the noise...
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Re: Debian 10 falls asleep while coping files to it (network
cool.
grab a KillaWatt , i paid like $15 on Ebay shipped. to measure power draw.
just saying, i used to love old Mac Pros
I put a couple of X5690 in it, pretty good performance, geekbench for single x5690 is almost like Devil's Canyon 4790K
pretty cheap to do. very impressive performance considering the age of these CPUs.
but then when you look into power usage, it's just not worth it.
i think i3 9100 these days will do the same thing at half the power
tipsy again, and i could be wrong, but these days more into efficiency than big balls,
i do have a GTX770 and R9 270x on the shelf, but given the power draw these cards offer nothing to me over a GT710
Watts is what your looking for, a killowatt = 1000 Watts is 30 cents in Australia, im pretty sure im under that with about 7 machines here (could be more, i'll count again when i sober up).
grab a KillaWatt , i paid like $15 on Ebay shipped. to measure power draw.
just saying, i used to love old Mac Pros
I put a couple of X5690 in it, pretty good performance, geekbench for single x5690 is almost like Devil's Canyon 4790K
pretty cheap to do. very impressive performance considering the age of these CPUs.
but then when you look into power usage, it's just not worth it.
i think i3 9100 these days will do the same thing at half the power
tipsy again, and i could be wrong, but these days more into efficiency than big balls,
i do have a GTX770 and R9 270x on the shelf, but given the power draw these cards offer nothing to me over a GT710
Watts is what your looking for, a killowatt = 1000 Watts is 30 cents in Australia, im pretty sure im under that with about 7 machines here (could be more, i'll count again when i sober up).
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Re: Debian 10 falls asleep while coping files to it (network
Well no wonder. I pay .08, .125 kw/h peak. You are into solar territory paying back!millusions wrote:Watts is what your looking for, a killowatt = 1000 Watts is 30 cents in Australia
Measure voltage, measure amps, do the math and that does give you watts. No killawatt gadget needed. Formerly I dealt with unreliable power, slow switches to a CNG genset, battery banks on inverters - there goes 20% right there...
I still have an XP machine with dual X5687's, run them de-hyper-threaded and as dual dual cores and they hold clock while passively cooled. It still sucks power. But it's rarely booted up. The handful of 5500/5600 series are all gone now, I kept the one.
Originally I set out to replace 8 with one, that's where I'm at. It is more efficient to run one super machine than a handful of boxes once a few things run all the time. Multi-seat happens less and less, but it's there. House and shop power control is vm'ified, as is a continuous tivo from a very large antenna, a few hours of 'full transponder' in RAM, along with a few things undisclosed. Of course the ability to run test and experiments in an assisted vm is useful.
I picked the video cards after many iterations. First single slot with real power, and a proper idle. Still have a nvidia box also, they suck power doing nothing. These AMD's idle well, work on all OS's including XP since I still have serial/usb equipment that need it, and older CAD/CAM stuff. They are still not fully realized under debian, but way better than my nvidia's which are also under performing in Debian. Debian doesn't do MST for example while the 2 decade old XP does, though I haven't checked it under debian lately.
The single computer also powers all the extras, no wall warts. I have a breakout harness with all the plugs for the 2 wifi routers and the net switch (yes, a switch used on a single computer), the TV/Radio signal amps, and the discrete cell data thing. That's from an old lesson about heat dissipation and power supplies, they don't do well at high altitude.
Of course somebody will say the complexity isn't worth it and that little fruit pie computers would be simpler and more reliable. I thought that was a reasonable thought 4 years ago. My current up time of 34+ weeks suggest otherwise. And the file server segment never falls asleep!
My Truck can tell you power use, it can delegate from ~0 to 38A for it's 5 heaters, chargers, server, SDR mesh, cameras, and hotspot. It can also run the house in an emergency outage with 3000W+ AC at 1200rpm. No, not factory. All made from components I could order from Hong Kong for cheaper than me mailing them to you. Those days might be gone. Used to receive a few packages a week, that's dried up. So an inductive coil to make a killawat was a buck shipped, no more...I should have stocked up, usually do.
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Re: Debian 10 falls asleep while coping files to it (network
that's why i run hackintoshes for any network services.
because other operating systems seem to have a pretty retarded view on WOL
i love Debian, have some really good memories with it, but Mac OSX is the best bsd distro
my MacOSX Mojave 10.14.6 server wakes up when i access it in any way at all, other times the sleep light blinks. no magic packet bullshit needed.
tried to get Debian to do it but giving up.
because other operating systems seem to have a pretty retarded view on WOL
i love Debian, have some really good memories with it, but Mac OSX is the best bsd distro
my MacOSX Mojave 10.14.6 server wakes up when i access it in any way at all, other times the sleep light blinks. no magic packet bullshit needed.
tried to get Debian to do it but giving up.
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Re: Debian 10 falls asleep while coping files to it (network
Do You know how Your hackintosh wakes up on LAN activity?millusions wrote:my MacOSX Mojave 10.14.6 server wakes up when i access it in any way at all, other times the sleep light blinks. no magic packet bullshit needed.
There's a plenty of possibilities:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wake-on-LAN
I'm guessing that OSX wakes up on PHY and/or broadcast activity - which is fine for homebrew NAS, as long it is not accessible from the outside world. Otherwise such default behaviour is completely wrong - I'm sure that no one wants to wake up the NAS on external port scanning (f.e.)The Wake-on values define what activity triggers wake up: d (disabled), p (PHY activity), u (unicast activity), m (multicast activity), b (broadcast activity), a (ARP activity), and g (magic packet activity).
My point is, again, that there's no size which fits them all ...
Besides, again, Debian is an Universal system - don't expect that universal system will be shipped with pre-configured WOL - this functionality is extremely rarely used and there's no good default wakeup method.
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Re: Debian 10 falls asleep while coping files to it (network
I dont know what youre guessing but it just works on OSX
with PHY debian wont sleep, id look into this some more but it's working for me, so dont need to.
yes. i understand Debian is a toolbox but the definition of this is kinda vauge.
there is some expectations of a computer to do some basic tasks, like sleep and wake on demand, but then you dissect the definition of basic, as in, we're booting with a working fstab = you do the rest.
when you highlight UNIVERSAL, what the fk do you exactly mean by that?
god bless those Apple nerds so dont have to fiddle with "d (disabled), p (PHY activity), u (unicast activity), m (multicast activity), b (broadcast activity), a (ARP activity), and g (magic packet activity)."
to get a computer do what it's supposed to.
i'll never understand why such basic functions are 'optional' because we're a UNIVERSAL OS lol
feel free to ingore me. bit drunk again
with PHY debian wont sleep, id look into this some more but it's working for me, so dont need to.
yes. i understand Debian is a toolbox but the definition of this is kinda vauge.
there is some expectations of a computer to do some basic tasks, like sleep and wake on demand, but then you dissect the definition of basic, as in, we're booting with a working fstab = you do the rest.
when you highlight UNIVERSAL, what the fk do you exactly mean by that?
god bless those Apple nerds so dont have to fiddle with "d (disabled), p (PHY activity), u (unicast activity), m (multicast activity), b (broadcast activity), a (ARP activity), and g (magic packet activity)."
to get a computer do what it's supposed to.
i'll never understand why such basic functions are 'optional' because we're a UNIVERSAL OS lol
feel free to ingore me. bit drunk again
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Re: Debian 10 falls asleep while coping files to it (network
I think that I've already explained "why"...millusions wrote:i'll never understand why such basic functions are 'optional' because we're a UNIVERSAL OS lol
feel free to ingore me. bit drunk again
Anyway, You have Your point of view, I have My point of view - everyone has His point of view, so just let's agree to disagree ...
Cheers!
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