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Xiphos Not Working Properly in Debian 10

Postby Rick B. » 2020-07-01 20:03

Has anyone been able to get Xiphos 4.1.0 (gtk3 webkit1) running properly in Debian 10 Buster? The drop down menus don't work the way they should with up and down arrows (they are missing), making the application somewhat difficult to use, though usable with extra work. For me it has only worked well on Ubuntu based distros. Research reveals it is a gtk3 problem. A posting from Manjaro states that gtk 3.24.7 solves the issue. Can anyone help me solve this issue? Thanks.
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Re: Xiphos Not Working Properly in Debian 10

Postby sgage » 2020-07-02 10:04

Rick B. wrote:Has anyone been able to get Xiphos 4.1.0 (gtk3 webkit1) running properly in Debian 10 Buster? The drop down menus don't work the way they should with up and down arrows (they are missing), making the application somewhat difficult to use, though usable with extra work. For me it has only worked well on Ubuntu based distros. Research reveals it is a gtk3 problem. A posting from Manjaro states that gtk 3.24.7 solves the issue. Can anyone help me solve this issue? Thanks.


Seems to work properly here - menus work normally. Not sure what you mean by "The drop down menus don't work the way they should with up and down arrows (they are missing)".
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Re: Xiphos Not Working Properly in Debian 10

Postby Rick B. » 2020-07-02 12:18

For each Bible book, chapter and verse there should be up and down pointers on the screen when you click on book, chapter or verse to be able to roll forward or backward. On my Debian 10 version the pointers are missing and you can only use the books, chapters or verses that are on the screen and not roll forward or backward. The pointers are there in my Linux Mint 118/19/20 versions of Xiphos but not in the Debian 10 version of Xiphos.
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Re: Xiphos Not Working Properly in Debian 10

Postby sgage » 2020-07-02 13:17

Rick B. wrote:For each Bible book, chapter and verse there should be up and down pointers on the screen when you click on book, chapter or verse to be able to roll forward or backward. On my Debian 10 version the pointers are missing and you can only use the books, chapters or verses that are on the screen and not roll forward or backward. The pointers are there in my Linux Mint 118/19/20 versions of Xiphos but not in the Debian 10 version of Xiphos.


Now I see what you mean. Same issue is indeed occurring here. I wonder if backports can supply the appropriate version of gtk3, or if there are just too many dependencies. I will try xiphos on my bullseye installation, and see what version of gtk3 is there...
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Re: Xiphos Not Working Properly in Debian 10

Postby sgage » 2020-07-02 13:22

Whoops! Xiphos has been removed from the repos in bullseye, replaced by BibleTime. I wonder how hard Xiphos is to compile...
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Re: Xiphos Not Working Properly in Debian 10

Postby Rick B. » 2020-07-02 15:10

All I need is an updated version of gtk3 which should solve the problem. The same problem exists with LMDE 4 (Mint based on Debian instead of Ubuntu). Ubuntu also removed Xiphos from the respository and Crosswire no longer offers compiled versions of Xiphos. Like, there seems to be a conspiracy against Xiphos!

Installing Xiphos from source is a complex and time consuming process for anyone who is not an intermediate to advanced Linux user. You can see the instructions here if you page down:

https://github.com/crosswire/xiphos/blo ... INSTALL.md
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Re: Xiphos Not Working Properly in Debian 10

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-07-02 16:30

Have you tried the flatpak version?

FWIW, there are several other SWORD-related programs available if Xiphos won't work properly for you.

EDIT: for a simple compilation guide see the build() function in the AUR PKGBUILD: https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/ ... xiphos#n39
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Re: Xiphos Not Working Properly in Debian 10

Postby cuckooflew » 2020-07-02 16:35

I all ways have good results with "bibletime", never had heard of Xiphos , until now.
===== edit ===,
I had never noticed this before, but BibleTime uses the Xiphos libraries, if one wants them,..it is a optional choice, Image
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Re: Xiphos Not Working Properly in Debian 10

Postby Rick B. » 2020-07-03 10:14

To: Head_on-a-stcik,

I tried the flatpak version in both Debian 10 and LMDE 4 and it has a serious font problem which makes using it impossible. I can't read it or install any books. So that is out. I just hope somewhere in the Debian community somone can assist me in solving this problem with the drop down menus not being able to roll forward or backward. Linux Mint has been no help and the Crosswire team has helped minimally. I have used both Xiphos and Bibletime for years, as well as The Word which runs under Wine.
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Re: Xiphos Not Working Properly in Debian 10

Postby cuckooflew » 2020-07-03 11:10

You could try running 'xiphos' from a terminal, there might be some clues in the terminal out put, even if you don't see anything, maybe copy/paste it here,...especially look for what it shows when you select those buttons and try clicking them.
Here is a example, but using bibletime, in this case the error occured when it was still loading,and I moved the mouse around, but once the program loads it works ok, or seems to any way,..
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cuckoo@debian:~$ bibletime
ERROR: corrupt data during decompression.
(BibleTime 2.11.2) WARNING: javascript console : "Uncaught TypeError: btHtmlJsObject.mouseMoveEvent is not a function"

I doubt anyone here will show much interest, I might be wrong though, any way I think your best option would be to submit a bug report, and/or contact the maintainer,
https://packages.debian.org/buster/xiphos
Rick B. » Linux Mint has been no help and the Crosswire team has helped minimally. I
why do you turn to Linux Mint? that is not Debian.
Any way , you should try contacting the DEBIAN package maintaners, not Linux Mint,...I see they actually are working on it, since Debian Bullseye is not a release yet, it is testing, if you do not communicate with them, the bug might very well go unnoticed and not fixed , see these:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=xiphos;dist=unstable
Then go to :
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=964098
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Yes, that would be good.
There's some patches and bugs too.
It would be good if the new release would fix those issues.
I was thinking of working on this after a week or so time permitting.

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The only thing is, they don't mention what the "issues" are. but any way, the e-mail , and list addresses
are in the entire post, I just did not copy/paste them here.
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Re: Xiphos Not Working Properly in Debian 10

Postby Rick B. » 2020-07-03 13:01

To: cuckooflew, You didn't read all my posts carefully. I mentioned LMDE 4 which IS Linux Mint Debian Edition, based on Debian 10. LMDE 3 was based on Debian 9 and so forth. The first release of LMDE was in March 2014. See here and page down: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Min ... on_history

You must not be that familiar with all of Mint's projects. They also have their main distro Linux Mint available in Cinnamon, MATE and Xcfe desktops. I originally inquired of them based on installing LMDE 4 and having this problem with Xiphos.

Calling Xiphos from the Terminal makes no difference; the problem is still there. I will try submitting a bug report with Debian since the problem does NOT exist with Mint main edition or Ubuntu based distros. Thanks.
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Re: Xiphos Not Working Properly in Debian 10

Postby cuckooflew » 2020-07-03 13:36

Actually, I did try to read your posts carefully, but found that the more I tried, the more confused I got, (no fault of yours, I get confused easily, probably the meds I take, but anyway that is another topic)
by Rick B. »You must not be that familiar with all of Mint's projects

No, I do not use it, tried it several years ago, but for many reasons, did not use it very long,....any way, we are talking about Debian, aren't we ?
by Rick B. »Calling Xiphos from the Terminal makes no difference; the problem is still there.

Nooo, I did not mean to give the impression it would make any difference or fix anything,...guess I confused you, by not being more clear,..
Me:You could try running 'xiphos' from a terminal, there might be some clues in the terminal out put,
Maybe H-O_A_S, can clarify, when he gets here,... what I mean is if you run it from the terminal, you should see some messages about what is going on, and maybe there will be some error messages that give us a clue as to what goes wrong, Did you see any thing in the terminal ? Try looking at what it says......
by Rick B. » I will try submitting a bug report with Debian since the problem does NOT exist with Mint main edition or Ubuntu based distros. Thanks.

Yes, but maybe , wait,...you know, supposedly they use some proprietary (non -free) software/firmware, and drivers. Debian dose not, not in a default installation, and there might be something you can install,
in fact you even said something about that:
by Rick B. » 2020-07-02 15:10
All I need is an updated version of gtk3 which should solve the problem.

Debian dose not use the most uptodate, "shiny , newest" versions of some software either,...this is one of the big differences between Debian and the other distros, ....but any way, yes I think a bug report is a good idea, I may try installing it , Xiphos my self and see what I get as well. But later, I am really busy and am not sure when I will get a chance..
Installing Xiphos from source is a complex and time consuming process--- snip---
Yes it would be , especially since it is intended to run under/with gnome,...and that is one reason I am reluctant to try installing it, I don't want all the gnome dependencies , etc.... later
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Re: Xiphos Not Working Properly in Debian 10

Postby cuckooflew » 2020-07-05 02:35

Here is what I mean about running it from the terminal,...:
Image
And you can see there is a error message, ..Also, below is the message text:
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cuckoo@debian:~$ xiphos

(xiphos:2018): Gdk-CRITICAL **: 08:56:11.196: gdk_window_get_window_type: assertion 'GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed
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Re: Xiphos Not Working Properly in Debian 10

Postby cuckooflew » 2020-07-05 02:57

I no longer get the error, also, as you can see the arrow buttons are showing, and they work,
I can not duplicate the problem,... ?? I am running Debian 10 on a VM, and Xiphos works fine, as well as Bible Time, no need for other version of gtk3,
Image
note :if you are missing some firmware, getting a newer version of gtk3 won't fix that.
Re: Xiphos Not Working Properly in Debian 10

Post by Rick B. » 2020-07-02 12:18
For each Bible book, chapter and verse there should be up and down pointers on the screen when you click on book, chapter or verse to be able to roll forward or backward. On my Debian 10 version the pointers are missing and you can only use the books, chapters or verses that are on the screen and not roll forward or backward. The pointers are there in my Linux Mint 118/19/20 versions of Xiphos but not in the Debian 10 version of Xiphos.

=======================
As you can see, they are there, and work...
Image
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