kernel for debian 3.1

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y2kdis · #1 Post by **y2kdis** » 2005-12-14 03:18

how do i find out the kernel for my debian 3.1 sarge edition? i'm asking primarily because whenever i boot i get the following message
"Hal requires a 2.6 kernel to work. Not satisfied"

Is sarge running an old linux kernel that's why hal will not work on it?

jobezone · #2 Post by **jobezone** » 2005-12-14 04:00

y2kdis wrote:how do i find out the kernel for my debian 3.1 sarge edition? i'm asking primarily because whenever i boot i get the following message
"Hal requires a 2.6 kernel to work. Not satisfied"

Is sarge running an old linux kernel that's why hal will not work on it?

You can find it out by typing:

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uname -r

I think that debian 3.1 installs by default 2.4, but also has 2.6 .
If you have a 2.4 kernel, then use aptitude, or synaptic to install the linux-image-2.6.x.x one.

glf2818 · #3 Post by **glf2818** » 2005-12-14 22:53

y2kdis
As root you can nano /etc/apt/sources.list and put deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib in it.
Then apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.
It will try to install an up-to-date version of it.
Whether it will actually run depends on your hardware.
If you have the cds:
Someone posted this before (sorry I didn't include who in my notes)
# apt-get update
#apt-cache search kernel-image
#apt-get install kernel-image-whatever
Then you just reboot and use the new kernel.
The search part lists a lot of kernels including a bunch of 2.6 kernels. None will run on my hardware (Dell Dimension 4700) because of a bug but it might on yours. It is very easy to do.
George

jobezone · #4 Post by **jobezone** » 2005-12-15 01:42

glf2818 wrote:y2kdis
As root you can nano /etc/apt/sources.list and put deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib in it.

There's no need to use the testing repository. Debian sarge (stable) has 2.6 linux, just not sure how it's named. Best bet is to use synaptic or aptitude to search for linux-image or kernel-image, and the install the 2.6 version.

y2kdis · #5 Post by **y2kdis** » 2005-12-23 05:25

is the 2.4 kernel more stable than the 2.6 version that's why it's the default kernel that gets installed?

Scotti · #6 Post by **Scotti** » 2005-12-23 06:01

y2kdis wrote:is the 2.4 kernel more stable than the 2.6 version that's why it's the default kernel that gets installed?

No. Both are stable. By todays "distro standards", Sarge is old. That's why it defaults to a 2.4 kernel. If you install testing (Etch) you will notice it installs a 2.6 kernel by default.

2.6 has greater hardware support and overall is just better. Use 2.6.

y2kdis · #7 Post by **y2kdis** » 2006-01-03 14:06

i did the

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#apt-cache search kernel-image

and came up with several kernel-images which are close to my currently installed kernel (i.e, kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386):

kernel-image-2.6-386
kernel-image-2.6-686
kernel-image-2.6-em64t-p4
kernel-image-2.6-em64t-p4-smp
kernel-image-2.6.8-11-em64t-p4
kernel-image-2.6.8-11-em64t-p4-smp
kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386
kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686

i think the right kernel to use is the second to the last, but i want to be sure so i won't have to deal with another problem. also, in case the kernel didn't work with my system, how do i revert back to the old one?

there were also kernel-pcmcia-modules-whatever that showed up, should i install one of them as well?

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kink · #8 Post by **kink** » 2006-01-03 14:27

If using testing/etch, note that the names of the kernel packages have changed from "kernel-image" to "linux-image".

y2kdis · #9 Post by **y2kdis** » 2006-01-05 01:00

anybody who has an idea about my last post?

domecq · #10 Post by **domecq** » 2006-01-05 01:04

anybody who could help me with my last question?

If that's this one:

there were also kernel-pcmcia-modules-whatever that showed up, should i install one of them as well?

There's no need, unless your computer is a laptop which has pcmcia card(s).

y2kdis · #11 Post by **y2kdis** » 2006-01-05 12:44

domecq wrote:
anybody who could help me with my last question?
If that's this one:
there were also kernel-pcmcia-modules-whatever that showed up, should i install one of them as well?
There's no need, unless your computer is a laptop which has pcmcia card(s).

oh sorry, your reply came in too fast. i actually edited my post from

anybody who could help me with my last question?

to

anybody who could help me with my last post?

since my last post has more than one question.

anyway, thanks for the reply. that leaves me with just two more questions
the one regarding the right kernel to install from the list i gave and the "undo" method in case i ran into trouble with the new kernel.

O.T.
guys, i really appreciate all the help i'm getting from this forum. although it would seem that i have two many questions, i'm trying hard not to ask silly questions or questions that will make you think i'm not working hard enough to look for answer elsewhere (like manual and mailing lists). actually i'm always googling for information regarding debian linux and stuffs and some times i have more than 3 opened browser windows. but one thing is for sure, if not for this site i would have given up on linux.

dawgie · #12 Post by **dawgie** » 2006-01-05 14:05

y2kdis wrote: that leaves me with just two more questions
the one regarding the right kernel to install from the list i gave and the "undo" method in case i ran into trouble with the new kernel.

The last one in your list (686) should work for you.

After you install your new kernel and reboot, you will still be able to choose your old kernel in grub.
If you don't want the new kernel to be the default,You can edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
and change the default number.

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