by mardybear »
Would be nice to have a forum where people can express opinions.
If you want a forum for discussing "opinions", and we all know what those are like, everyone has one, but Why don't you do that, start a forum, for expressing "opinions" ?
and you could just let it run wild, since you do not want moderation or administration.
by arochester »What do you think Moderators are here for? Should we all just pack up and go away and let you get on with it?
And this response:
by mardybear » Well that's how it used to be, guess it's now a 'moderated forum'. Please then go ahead and moderate.
It has been moderated for a long time, now, if not all ways, from what I can see
moderation started in 2006-02-06 at 10:50
See this: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3593
I think your thinking of that other forum, I forget the name of it, but I do remember browsing it, and it was not moderated, and it was so full of mixed up junk, about other OS's, and endless arguements, I could not find anything related to the problem with Debian I was having, I still did join, and asked my question, but shortly after I found this one, found a solution to my problem, and got some real use full explanations that helped fill in some details I had not found in my searches.
The other forum was such a mess , I never did go back to it, except once , when this one was temporarily down , in hopes that there might be something about that and there was, but still it was so full of arguing and other discussions not at all related to what I am interested in, which is Debian, any way, to bad I can not remember the name of that other forum, if I could I would suggest "hanging out" there,..it is not moderated, and you can argue, and post rants on "free speech" to your hearts content.
by mardybear »Welcome to the future where free speech will be lost and heaven forbid anybody express an actual opinion.
Give me a break, the old "free speech" is being threatened argument just does not cut it. You are free to start any kind of forum or website you want, and say what you want on it. Like wise other forums and websites have every right to decide what is permitted and what isn't.
Another reason that argument is worthless, as I mentioned earlier, if it was a matter of not allowing people to express opinions or share about other OS's, and "free speech"
The topic/thread would have been deleted, and it wasn't, everything in it is still viewable and can be read by the public, nobodies right to "free speech" has been violated. The topic was locked, so no more things can be added, but nothing was removed. In fact even in the topic, it was mentioned how there were so many listed in to many replies, and they should/could all be put into one post. Some one could do that, and have the list on a website, and have a link to it in their signature. Your "free speech" argument does not stand up.
by mardybear »Administrator's on this forum are so involved, they'll probably hop right to it and address any concerns. Odd that this almost no moderation forum suddenly gets 'moderated'.
Have you ever actually tried to contact one, in the correct manner ?
HOWTO contact forum moderators/admins
I see at least 1 admin check in daily, and often there is many reports to be reviewed, and acted on, also there are posts topics that get locked, or even completely removed (deleted) and other things that get done by the administrators, 2 are the most active, and they do check in daily, their presence and what they do is not noticed by most members/users, but the point is, they are involved.
Please close all threads started by uninformed or lazy newcomers once they've been informed to read the manual. For consistency, also close all other 'off-topic' threads. Current threads this might include:
I do agree, there perhaps should be a major "house cleaning", and a stricter approach taken , but are you sure you would really want to see all of the "off-topic" threads closed ? I don't think most members would want that, including me.
Funny how first you say this should be a "free speech" opinion forum, then you turn around and say all of these other topics/threads should be closed ???
Your rant is just to argue, nothing more.
There is no point in trying to reason with trolls, they all ways come up with a new argument, it is pointless. They are not capable if grasping "reason" and enjoy arguing.
I don't see any reason for this topic to continue, but that is up to the admins and moderators, and I don't have to follow it any more.
I am sorry to see you are so unhappy with the forum, perhaps you should look for a different one that you can enjoy more.
Or start your own, Are you capable of that ? I have my doubts.