Debian User Forums

by **debiman** » 2018-03-17 10:05

... and that's a waste of horizontal space. The relevant information (thread title usually) is lost when you have more than a few tabs open:
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As you can see in the second screenshot, most pages start with the ever-unchanging "Debian User Forums • View ....":
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maybe the forum software offers a configuration option to shorten this, or swap the order around?

by **Head_on_a_Stick** » 2018-03-17 10:10

The forums are kind of like the Mary Celeste, I don't think a thread like this will change anything.

by **GarryRicketson** » 2018-03-17 17:53

That is not something that can be configured in the forum software, it is a browser thing, I suppose some browsers could be configured to produce tabs more to your liking, for example mine does show me more details of each tab when I pass over it with the mouse, I was not able to capture that in my screen shot, but another thing , how would changing the forum software configuration
affect the way the browser tabs display other forums, the tabs on mine show the names of the forum, just like it does "Debian User Forums",...

Agree with H_O_A_S, a thread like this won't change anything.
Another thing, that can be configured very easily, is a size limit on screenshots and images posted, but nobody cares about that either,.... but I guess that is another topic.

by **pawRoot** » 2018-03-17 18:37

^ bollocks.

by **debiman** » 2018-03-17 19:12

for once i agree with pawroot.

HoaS:
i know chances are slim. nevertheless i decided to post.
are you happy it gave you another opportunity to profile yourself with a clever yet pointless and only vaguely related remark & wikipedia link?

Mr ricketson:
that's just wrong. the browser tab displays whatever is the title of the web page, and that's a defined element in the html page's <head> section. almost all content management software (and a forum software is a type of that) has a setting to define the page title.

by **Head_on_a_Stick** » 2018-03-17 19:25

debiman wrote:are you happy it gave you another opportunity to profile yourself with a clever yet pointless and only vaguely related remark & wikipedia link?

Yes, very, thanks for asking.

EDIT: and thanks for the opportunity

EDIT2: Yay! Postcount ++

by **bdtc1** » 2018-03-17 19:28

For this discussion topic's page, the title tag contains:

"Debian User Forums • View topic - Page titles start with always-same "Debian User Forums ..."

In theory the forum could instead use "Page titles start with always-same • Debian User Forums". As mentioned above, this would show meaningful information on tabs in most browsers.

by **bw123** » 2018-03-17 19:32

It would be a bad idea to alter the <title> tag and remove the forum name for the posts because:

https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_head.asp

The <title> element:

defines a title in the browser tab
provides a title for the page when it is added to favorites
displays a title for the page in search engine results

by **GarryRicketson** » 2018-03-17 22:48

Debiman, I think I am misunderstanding what it is you would like to see, it is possible to do something like this :

How ever as mentioned by

Post by bw123 » 2018-03-17 13:32
It would be a bad idea to alter the <title> tag and remove the forum name for the posts because: ---snip---

The point H_O_A_S is making, and it is true, the other problem is that the admins here are not likely to want to make any changes, if they can, I am not sure that there is even any admin that has the access needed to modify the theme in order to make the change, all though it is relatively simple.

If my example is not what you mean, still. Maybe you could install phpBB software on your local host, and customize it, and the show us exactly what you mean, and also explain exactly how you made the changes .
For example , this is what I did:
I just removed the

Code: Select all: {SITENAME}

from the "overall_header" template,.. :

Code: Select all: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" dir="{S_CONTENT_DIRECTION}" lang="{S_USER_LANG}" xml:lang="{S_USER_LANG}"> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset={S_CONTENT_ENCODING}" /> <meta http-equiv="content-style-type" content="text/css" /> <meta http-equiv="content-language" content="{S_USER_LANG}" /> <meta http-equiv="imagetoolbar" content="no" /> <meta name="resource-type" content="document" /> <meta name="distribution" content="global" /> <meta name="keywords" content="" /> <meta name="description" content="" /> {META} <title>{SITENAME}• {L_MCP} • {L_UCP} • {PAGE_TITLE}</title>

I changed it back to what it was, because I don't think it is a good idea, and don't want it that way on my forum.

by **Bulkley** » 2018-03-17 22:58

How can I change the name on a Firefox tab?

by **sunrat** » 2018-03-18 01:44

Bulkley wrote:How can I change the name on a Firefox tab?

That extension mentioned is for FF4, not available now.

It may be possible to change the title with some CSS in userContent.css - http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserContent.css
Or perhaps a Greasemoney/Tampermonkey script.
I've never considered it an issue.

by **GarryRicketson** » 2018-03-18 01:57

Thanks Bukley, I like the way Seamonkey handles the tabs, for me this is kind of a non issue, since I can see what tabs are open, and details about the page they are on. Now I got the screen shots of it :

Notice on the far right, I have a list of what the tabs are, it is in a left to right order, the current active one is in bold text.
I can select and click any of those tabs in the list and it takes me to that page.
Also in the next screen shot, when I pass over the tab with my mouse, it shows all of it.
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This is when I pass the mouse over the 2nd tab, which is the index page.
It displays the dropdown window, which also disappears when the mouse is no longer on it, so it does not disrupt the view.

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I am pretty sure the forum admin has better things to do then trying to reconfigure the forum software so that every one has tabs exactly like they want, especially when it can be done by configuring the browser. But then
again, probably I am wrong, as usual.

by **pawRoot** » 2018-03-18 05:52

https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtop ... &t=2112258

for once i agree with debiman, it is also annoying to me while having many tabs open,
recommending others to install firefox addon is just ... :mrgreen:

by **debiman** » 2018-03-18 06:43

bw123 wrote:It would be a bad idea to alter the <title> tag and remove the forum name for the posts because:

https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_head.asp
The <title> element:

defines a title in the browser tab
provides a title for the page when it is added to favorites
displays a title for the page in search engine results

the forum name doesn't need to be removed!
swapping the parts around would suffice, let's see:
Debian User Forums • View topic - Some average topic title
could be changed to:
Some average topic title • Debian User Forums
(i doubt the "View topic" bit is of much use to search engines)

somebody addressed it here, with good examples of how it could be done better:

pawRoot wrote:https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=2112258

and the solution looks really simpe (as i knew it would).
of course it would require a site maintainer to actually implement that...

by **4D696B65** » 2018-03-18 06:55

debiman wrote:somebody addressed it here, with good examples of how it could be done better:
pawRoot wrote:https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=2112258

and the solution looks really simpe (as i knew it would).
of course it would require a site maintainer to actually implement that...

I don't have the necessary access to the server. An orange server admin would need to do it.

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