GarryRicketson wrote:But Google does show the Debian User Forums,
I surely HOPE that Google shows the Debian forum, when entering "Debian support forum", or I would have been really suspicous!
https://www.google.be/search?client=ope ... 8&oe=UTF-8
(Hey, look: the Google folks know I am using Opera
. Firefox ESR stinks, and not just in Debian.)
But no, no Debian forums.
Or, say:
https://www.google.be/search?client=ope ... 8&oe=UTF-8
Nope, no Debian forums.
Or are all Debian users THAT well-informed that no one has ever asked at the forums how to check the used screen res and how to install a printer in Debian?
Okay, let us try Startpage.
https://lmsptfy.com/?q=debian%20install%20printer
No Debian forums. A few Wiki and Debian package pages, but no forums.
DuckDuckGo?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=debian+instal ... =h_&ia=web
Nothing.
Wait, there is one hit -
http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?t=1491
GarryRicketson wrote:It might be because you don't use good search terms in your key words,
Is "Debian install printer", or "Debian check screen resolution", a bad way to search?
Perhaps I have to pose it as a question?:
https://www.google.com/search?ei=c-3vW7 ... Yu_f0pYb3s
No Debian forums.
A few search engines that respect one's privacy too(?) (Never ever ever heard of them)
https://www.qwant.com/?q=debian%20check ... tion&t=web
(Some French search engine. No, I am not French.)
No Debian forums.
"Searx", some open source search engine (Never heard of it.). No Debian forums. (I cannot copy the search URL itself?)
Or... Baidu?
https://www.baidu.com/s?ie=utf-8&f=8&rs ... _sug4=5166
First time in my life I am on Baidu.com. No Debian forums.
GarryRicketson wrote:We have no control over what Google decides to show as results in a search, obviously it is not on purpose.
As one sees, not one search engine shows (and if, then barely) the Debian forums. That cannot be a coincidence.
GarryRicketson wrote:Here at Debian User Forums, have you noticed, we don't have any advertising, etc,... like so many of the commercial sites do ?
Now that you mention that, I indeed realise this (that is how little attention I pay to ads).
Perhaps it is time for me to make a donation to Debian, like I have already done for a few other distros a couple of times (
https://www.spi-inc.org/projects/debian/).
GarryRicketson wrote:look close at the top right corner, you will see the Microsoft advertisement
What advertisement?
I don't see any advertisement.
( Just kidding: I do see it. I just don't/ever pay attention to it, let alone click on it.)
Garry Ricketson wrote:Do you really want Debian, and these forums to get like this ?
I will (still) defend Ubuntu Linux: it was for me the start of GNU/Linux back in 2007. Ubuntu 10.04 was the best/nicest/greatest OS that I have ever used in my entire life (Sorry, Clem Lefebvre of Linux Mint
)
As for Canonical as a company, I could not really care less.
-oo-
When I search for information, I want to find it. If this or that search engine gives me that information, then I will use that search engine again.
Yes, I sometimes notice the same ads showing up on different websites (like about some coat - as in clothing; I do not shop online - earlier this week (???) ), but I have "programmed" myself to ignore ads.
Google does this the best: I regularly use other search engines, then I curse because I do not exactly find what I want, and then I go over to Google again and find what I look for.
Google earns money, while they give me the information I want? Fair enough. They are a for-profit corporation, after all. Without businesses there would be no (cheap/free) Internet.
As for Google knowing information about me: I'd rather have a private company to have information on me than the (my) government (the latter being very unlikely, considering the incompetent imbeciles in "charge" here...).
Head_on_a_Stick wrote: use startpage.com to avoid being trapped in the Big G's filter bubble.
The thing is that Google is the best...
Privacy <> Results. It is an important issue, but a quick choice, if I want good information.