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Bring back the penguin!!

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Do you want the good old penguin logo back?

Yes
51
81%
Yes
12
19%
 
Total votes: 63

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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#31 Post by gnudude »

KOTAPAKA wrote: Yes he gets you to the main page of the forum :O. Don't tell me you didn't know that and didn't use it :cry:
click on 'Board Index' and see where it takes you :wink:

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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#32 Post by kabniel »

KOTAPAKA wrote:
gnudude wrote:Does he do something magical when you click on him? I never tried....easter egg perhaps....that would be cool
Yes he gets you to the main page of the forum :O. Don't tell me you didn't know that and didn't use it :cry:
Reminds me of the phrase "Abandon all hope, ye who enters here" or how it goes.

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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#33 Post by 987687 »

KOTAPAKA wrote:
gnudude wrote:Does he do something magical when you click on him? I never tried....easter egg perhaps....that would be cool
Yes he gets you to the main page of the forum :O. Don't tell me you didn't know that and didn't use it :cry:
In most forums, and even most websites, clicking on the logo will bring you back to the home page.

I never used it on here though, I have debian forums on my bookmark bar, so I just clicked it there.
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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#34 Post by norb »

I see no point in having or using this logo, may he/she rest in peace.

I vote no

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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#35 Post by StiKS »

No, we don't need that ugly penguin back.

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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#36 Post by Cope57 »

I personally like the Debian logo better than the Tux logo as the mascot for the forum.

Leave the penguin where it currently resides.
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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#37 Post by ComputerBob »

Despite this thread's rigged poll, there doesnt appear to me to be any overwhelming desire to bring back the psycho-penguin, but there does appear to be significant desire to leave him in retirement.
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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#38 Post by Tadeas »

ComputerBob wrote:Despite this thread's rigged poll, there doesnt appear to me to be any overwhelming desire to bring back the psycho-penguin, but there does appear to be significant desire to leave him in retirement.
Let's correct that.

Bring him back! Bring him back! Bring him back!

:)
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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#39 Post by 987687 »

Tadeas wrote:
ComputerBob wrote:Despite this thread's rigged poll, there doesnt appear to me to be any overwhelming desire to bring back the psycho-penguin, but there does appear to be significant desire to leave him in retirement.
Let's correct that.

Bring him back! Bring him back! Bring him back!

:)
Maybe there could be an option in the UCP to enable the penguin.
That would make everyone happy :D
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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#40 Post by BioTube »

PSYCHOTUX WILL RETURN!
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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#41 Post by Tadeas »

BioTube wrote:PSYCHOTUX WILL RETURN!
Will he really? Is it confirmed?
Greaaaat!
Maybe there could be an option in the UCP to enable the penguin.
It's not a bad idea... For instance - a phpbb themes with it and some others without...

But I'm afraid we're starting to demand quite a lot from the admins... :)
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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#42 Post by anarchyinc666 »

Tadeas wrote: It's not a bad idea... For instance - a phpbb themes with it and some others without...

But I'm afraid we're starting to demand quite a lot from the admins... :)
I agree, everytime there is a big change, people complain. Give them all the old style to choose complete with tux and everyone should be happy. Problem solved. I liked tux personally but I think they did away with him to make the site look more professional.
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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#43 Post by ComputerBob »

anarchyinc666 wrote:
Tadeas wrote:...I think they did away with him to make the site look more professional.
Personally, I'm glad that psycho-tux is gone.

But to set the record straight, anyone who's ever installed a phpbb forum knows that it comes pre-configured with its own default style. And that default style comes with its own text color, background colors, default icons, etc. The default phpbb forum style does not include psycho-tux. Someone had to manually tweak the forum code in the past to make psycho-tux replace the default "circus tent" image that displays in the default phpbb v2.x style of the old Debian forums -- the same "circus tent" image that can be seen up there right now in phpbb v3.x. In other words, the Debian forum admins *may* or may not have chosen to retire psycho-tux when they upgraded the forums, but the fact of the matter is that they would have had to do some work to have psycho-tux appear in these forums if they had wanted him to appear in these forums. And, at least so far, they've chosen to not do that work.

The default phpbb v3.x style is what everyone was seeing here before before the admins chose to make another style available several days ago. That default phpbb v3.x style that some users complained about was completely the result of upgrading these forums to the newer, more secure phpbb v3.x and it was the exact same style that everyone else who installs a phpbb v3.x forum gets by default -- it had nothing to do with the Debian admins working hard on the forums to make them look "more professional."

If you check the CSS, you'll see that the text color of these phpbb v3.x forums is somewhat lighter than black in both of the forum styles that are currently available to choose here. That's the default phpbb text color that everyone gets when they install a phpbb forum -- the Debian forum admins did not make a conscious choice to make these forums' text that color -- it came that way.

In my browser, I can force black to be the text color -- of every web site that I ever visit -- but I wouldn't want to do that because many web sites, including my own, use other text colors for emphasis, for headlines and for other purposes.

It's been a few years since I administered a phpbb forum (after trying phpbb v3.x, I switched to using SMF forum software), but IIRC, In phpbb forums, there's one admin config option that sets the text color of forum posts -- if a forum admin changed that one setting to #000000, then all of the text in posts like this one would instantly change to pure black instead of the sort-of-black that it is currently.

To me, it would make more sense to do that than to tell thousands of forum users to write config scripts, change their browser settings for every web site they visit, install browser hacks, etc., etc., etc.
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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#44 Post by Rolling Stone »

987687 wrote:here it is:
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Boy, that's one twisted, uglee, aquatic bird! :mrgreen:

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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#45 Post by Ook »

Yes. The place is looking very sharp but too spiffy and generic. This is a forum for DYI geniuses. It is about putting something unique and individualized together with personal innovation. There must be some sort of character, and it should be slightly askew. That is why the penguin was perfect, why it still is.

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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#46 Post by 987687 »

Ook wrote:Yes. The place is looking very sharp but too spiffy and generic. This is a forum for DYI geniuses. It is about putting something unique and individualized together with personal innovation. There must be some sort of character, and it should be slightly askew. That is why the penguin was perfect, why it still is.
I agree, it looks way to formal. The blue title bar, debian logo, and boring bland font.
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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#47 Post by Cope57 »

  • No
  • No
We do not hate Tux, but he is not the Debian mascot.
He is a Linux mascot, and represents all Linux distributions, not just Debian.

The Debian swirl logo should stay.

If you can convince Debian to get rid of the swirl, and replace it with Tux; I will be happy to see the penguin back on the forum to represent Debian.
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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#48 Post by 987687 »

Cope57 wrote:
  • No
  • No
We do not hate Tux, but he is not the Debian mascot.
He is a Linux mascot, and represents all Linux distributions, not just Debian.

The Debian swirl logo should stay.

If you can convince Debian to get rid of the swirl, and replace it with Tux; I will be happy to see the penguin back on the forum to represent Debian.
If you are going to go by that reasoning... we should have the swirl, tux, and the GNU mascot. Because it is Debian GNU/Linux. Shouldn't they all be represented?
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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#49 Post by Ook »

Cope57 wrote:
  • No
  • No
You voted twice? :)
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Re: Bring back the penguin!!

#50 Post by tombom62 »

ComputerBob wrote:
anarchyinc666 wrote:
Tadeas wrote:...I think they did away with him to make the site look more professional.
Personally, I'm glad that psycho-tux is gone.

But to set the record straight, anyone who's ever installed a phpbb forum knows that it comes pre-configured with its own default style. And that default style comes with its own text color, background colors, default icons, etc. The default phpbb forum style does not include psycho-tux. Someone had to manually tweak the forum code in the past to make psycho-tux replace the default "circus tent" image that displays in the default phpbb v2.x style of the old Debian forums -- the same "circus tent" image that can be seen up there right now in phpbb v3.x. In other words, the Debian forum admins *may* or may not have chosen to retire psycho-tux when they upgraded the forums, but the fact of the matter is that they would have had to do some work to have psycho-tux appear in these forums if they had wanted him to appear in these forums. And, at least so far, they've chosen to not do that work.

The default phpbb v3.x style is what everyone was seeing here before before the admins chose to make another style available several days ago. That default phpbb v3.x style that some users complained about was completely the result of upgrading these forums to the newer, more secure phpbb v3.x and it was the exact same style that everyone else who installs a phpbb v3.x forum gets by default -- it had nothing to do with the Debian admins working hard on the forums to make them look "more professional."

If you check the CSS, you'll see that the text color of these phpbb v3.x forums is somewhat lighter than black in both of the forum styles that are currently available to choose here. That's the default phpbb text color that everyone gets when they install a phpbb forum -- the Debian forum admins did not make a conscious choice to make these forums' text that color -- it came that way.

In my browser, I can force black to be the text color -- of every web site that I ever visit -- but I wouldn't want to do that because many web sites, including my own, use other text colors for emphasis, for headlines and for other purposes.

It's been a few years since I administered a phpbb forum (after trying phpbb v3.x, I switched to using SMF forum software), but IIRC, In phpbb forums, there's one admin config option that sets the text color of forum posts -- if a forum admin changed that one setting to #000000, then all of the text in posts like this one would instantly change to pure black instead of the sort-of-black that it is currently.

To me, it would make more sense to do that than to tell thousands of forum users to write config scripts, change their browser settings for every web site they visit, install browser hacks, etc., etc., etc.
That'd exactly what I would have said if I got here in time. I don't have anything to say but +1, I totally agree. I've installed phpbb2x and 3x and know that both themes used are the defaults but with minor changes (for the logos)
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