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To All Dear Mods, Admins, etc

Postby AMLJ » 2011-02-08 16:17

Hello... I know you are all doing your best... But there are really some problems in what you are doing...
First of all, I ask you not to lock this thread, or ban me just because I want to discuss this matter.

Many experienced users are leaving, and some like me are just really upset... I assume you don't care about that very much, but please, if you care about the forums, could you please consider making a change? Even a little one...

Is it possible to have a change in the rules, or even a change in the staff? Maybe a vote?

As I mentioned, I'm really asking you guys not to lock this thread... Let's have a normal discussion, after a very long time...

It'd be also nice to see what other users think about this... Please don't say things which you know will cause in this thread being locked... Let's keep this one clean..
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Re: To All Dear Mods, Admins, etc

Postby oOarthurOo » 2011-02-08 16:44

I haven't noticed any problems, and the little I've looked into the recent nonsense just looks to me like a lot of emotion and anger over very little of substance.

That being said , it wouldn't be a bad idea to have the disciplinary stuff laid out more clearly, if for no other reason than transparancy. Currently Lavene's post on the Guidelines is all that exists, so maybe we could add a point thirteen under:
Summary
The following might get your post EDITED:
- Profanities
- Links to inappropriate websites

The following might get your post/ thread LOCKED
- Flaming/ personal attacks
- Obvious trolling
- Thread has wandered way off topic
- Cross posting

The following might get your post REMOVED
- Advertising/ Spamming
- Obviously racist/ sexist/ hateful content
- Obviously political/ religious content
- Obvious pornographic content


Something like:

13. Disciplinary Actions
- Administrators and Mods have the authority to take more severe actions in certain situations, from temporary account suspensions to permanent bans of users who violate the above rules.
- Users subject to disciplinary actions should try discuss the matter with the Administrator / Mod who dealt with the issue if they disagree with the decsion or feel that they are being treated unfairly.
- All permanent bans must be agreed to by two Administrators / Moderators. You cannot appeal a permanent ban, as by this point you will likely have had a number of opportunities to correct your forum behaviour.


Just off the top of the head, feel free to modify / improve / disregard.

Oh and one thing I admire about the Ubuntuforums, is that they have discussions between users and mods in the open, which I think contributes to a sense of fairness and transparancy. PM's might not be the best approach to dealing with disciplinary actions, unless both the user and mod agree to use it. In any event, a subform dedicated to appeals decisions might be a good idea.
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Re: To All Dear Mods, Admins, etc

Postby eric1959 » 2011-02-08 17:05

oOarthurOo wrote:.... which I think contributes to a sense of fairness and transparancy. PM's might not be the best approach to dealing with disciplinary actions, unless both the user and mod agree to use it. In any event, a subform dedicated to appeals decisions might be a good idea.


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Re: To All Dear Mods, Admins, etc

Postby traveler » 2011-02-08 17:18

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Re: To All Dear Mods, Admins, etc

Postby oOarthurOo » 2011-02-08 17:22

For those of us who have disabled images/signatures on the forums, is there some message those [img] placeholders are meant to convey?
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Re: To All Dear Mods, Admins, etc

Postby AMLJ » 2011-02-08 17:38

I think that rule which says mods and admins can do whatever they want, means that there are really no other rules!

Would an admin or mod please answer too? I saw saul... reading this thread...
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Re: To All Dear Mods, Admins, etc

Postby MALsPa » 2011-02-08 17:49

traveler wrote:Image


Yep.

AMLJ wrote:Many experienced users are leaving


Maybe that's a good thing.
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Re: To All Dear Mods, Admins, etc

Postby traveler » 2011-02-08 18:01

MALsPa wrote:
AMLJ wrote:Many experienced users are leaving

Maybe that's a good thing.

Maybe we can get the bean system once all the gurus leave. That would be super.
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Re: To All Dear Mods, Admins, etc

Postby AMLJ » 2011-02-08 18:01

MALsPa wrote:Maybe that's a good thing.

Um... Not sure if I understand you...

traveler wrote:Maybe we can get the bean system once all the gurus leave. That would be super.

I think if we keep going this way, we're soon going to see some bean system here too...
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Re: To All Dear Mods, Admins, etc

Postby eric1959 » 2011-02-08 18:02

MALsPa wrote:
AMLJ wrote:Many experienced users are leaving


Maybe that's a good thing.


Why would that be a good thing...?
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Re: To All Dear Mods, Admins, etc

Postby Mr James » 2011-02-08 18:05

traveler wrote:
MALsPa wrote:
AMLJ wrote:Many experienced users are leaving

Maybe that's a good thing.

Maybe we can get the bean system once all the gurus leave. That would be super.


Followed by threads asking for advice on how to get over a girl...
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Re: To All Dear Mods, Admins, etc

Postby MALsPa » 2011-02-08 18:06

Just seems to me that it's a few "experienced" users who are the problem, not the mods/admins. Just my opinion, and I know others here might strongly disagree. Wow, is it really all that difficult to get along with people and not run into issues with the mods/admins?
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Re: To All Dear Mods, Admins, etc

Postby mojoman » 2011-02-08 18:09

MALsPa wrote:Wow, is it really all that difficult to get along with people and not run into issues with the mods/admins?


Had you asked me two years ago I would have said no.
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Re: To All Dear Mods, Admins, etc

Postby MALsPa » 2011-02-08 18:14

mojoman wrote:
MALsPa wrote:Wow, is it really all that difficult to get along with people and not run into issues with the mods/admins?


Had you asked me two years ago I would have said no.


I was here two years ago, too. Didn't have any problems with the mods then, don't have any problems with them now.
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Re: To All Dear Mods, Admins, etc

Postby mojoman » 2011-02-08 18:21

MALsPa wrote:I was here two years ago, too. Didn't have any problems with the mods then, don't have any problems with them now.


Yeah, well, a lot of people obviously do, who never had problems before. The style of moderation and the atmosphere of the forum have definitely changed during my years here. And if you ask me it's not for the better.
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