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Postby nadir » 2012-04-30 17:10

Why is it impossible to ban spammers, but possible to ban members?

Whatever a potty mouth might be, i have not seen it.

The question is a valid one.

Next one:
which threads get removed, which ones get closed, which ones stay open? Is there any rule behind that? Or just a question of mood?
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Re: same question again

Postby craigevil » 2012-04-30 17:42

spambots do get banned. If the admins gave a crap they would fix the forum so it doesn't get so much spam. One spambot gets banned and ten more join, it is a never ending war.

Threads get moved to spam or locked when they violate the forum rules. try reading them.
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Re: same question again

Postby nadir » 2012-04-30 18:28

I have read the forum rules,and more than once
(and yes, all of them. As far i know there are three versions:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=10653
viewtopic.php?f=30&t=52366
viewtopic.php?f=30&t=47078
but perhaps there is a fourth or even fivth version somewhere to be found
)

Perhaps _ you _ should read them once in a while?
Cause it rather looks as if you would decide on your personal preference than on the forum rules.
They say, as an example:
RTFM has no place on this board.

They don't get removed if they violate the (very vague) forum rules. They get removed if you don't like them.
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Re: same question again

Postby craigevil » 2012-04-30 18:35

So once again when you do not like the answers you turn to personal attacks.

No posts do not get removed simply because I do not like them, if that was the case there would be a lot more removed.

Perhaps I should be locking threads rather than moving them to spam. But either way they are handled because they violate the forum rules.

Edit: as of today I have resigned from being a Moderator. Tired of all the drama and BS.

I volunteer my time and efforts posting in various forums to help people, not to arguing about meaningless crap.
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Re: same question again

Postby Mr James » 2012-04-30 19:01

No, I do not agree with a lot of Craig's calls. No, I do not approve of posts suddenly vanishing without notice. No, I do not enjoy the fact that there are 14 different versions of the "Forum Rules", none of which is "THE Forum Rules". But I must ask:

If continued complaining resulted in CraigEvil getting pissed and resigning from being a moderator and saying "To hell with all of you", from whence shall we get a replacement? Far as I can see, AM fell off the face of the planet and Mez is still MIA...

Food for thought...
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Re: same question again

Postby JohnDeere730 » 2012-04-30 19:15

I've said it before and I'll say it again; a person with only moderator permissions absolutely cannot effectively administer a phpBB forum. Period. No matter how many mods and spamhunters and witch-doctors and anti-pottymouth monitors you have, they CANNOT do it. What I see in Craig's actions is a person who is exhausted, pissed off and discouraged. The problems here are not his fault or doing, nor are they Sossego's or Cynwulf's or Nadir's fault. It all goes back to admins who just do not care. Period. No amount of whining, pissing and moaning will change that. Nor will beating Craig about the head and shoulders solve anything except maybe getting more frustrated and pissed-off people banned, rinse and repeat ad nauseum.

The easiest thing for EVERYONE to do is vote with your feet. All this drama is pointless.
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Re: same question again

Postby cynwulf » 2012-04-30 19:39

craigevil wrote:Edit: as of today I have resigned from being a Moderator. Tired of all the drama and BS.

I volunteer my time and efforts posting in various forums to help people, not to arguing about meaningless crap.

Everyone here is a volunteer. No one has to bother to login and answer questions.

I understand how you feel, but this is yet more unnecessary "drama and BS". You permanently banned a member unjustly - if this were you on the receiving end of this ban it would be no different - I think you know this as well. I can accept that you found sossego's threads annoying or against the rules, but the rules are being broken here non stop and there have been no bans issued. If such bans as sossego's are allowed to happen unchallenged and threads continue disappearing on a whim - with the current state of this board - it can only get worse.

If you didn't ban Ahtiga Saraz, then why not? He crossed the line many more times than sossego.
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Re: same question again

Postby nadir » 2012-04-30 19:50

If you say i should read the forum rules it is perfectly ok.
If i say that i did read them, and that perhaps you should read them, it is an personal attack.

Same ole story.

The whole idea of rules and laws is that they are valid for everyone, and that they are coherent. That is why she is usually considered to be blind.
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Re: same question again

Postby dasein » 2012-04-30 20:01

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Re: same question again

Postby hhh » 2012-05-02 03:49

@craigevil, I read your post just now. I want to say thanks for all your help, and I'm glad I was able recently to help you with your minor KDE issue. Peace, fellow Floridian, may it serve you well. :^)
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Re: same question again

Postby ComputerBob » 2012-05-02 07:44

@craigevil,
Despite a slew of personal attacks against you by a few extremely vocal members, I am grateful that you tried to enforce some level of sanity in this asylum, and I'm sorry that harassment has driven you away.
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