Install TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) on Jessie

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Install TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) on Jessie

Postby Hallvor » 2015-04-02 18:01

What is TDE?
The Trinity Desktop Environment project (TDE) is a fork of KDE 3.5, organised and led by Timothy Pearson. This project aims to release continuing bug fixes, additional features, and compatibility with recent hardware. Trinity is packaged for Debian, Ubuntu, Red Hat and various other distributions.

This howto will require adding a personal package archive. This is a software repository that enables the developer, whose software is not in the official Debian repository, to bring software and updates to that software to users of Debian. If you don't know what you are doing, please don't continue.

I have tested all the steps in this howto without issue. In fact I run TDE on two different netbooks myself.

Why TDE?
Very feature rich.
Low RAM consumption (about 130 MB RAM with Konqueror web browser).
Very efficient. If you use TDE applications, RAM usage will rise very slowly.
Great localization.

How does it look?
If you don't remember KDE3.5, here are some screenshots:

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A Youtube-video showing TDE in a virtual machine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUcDpMgEUck


How to install it
The first thing you need to edit is your sources.list (as root)

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# nano /etc/apt/sources.list


Paste these lines into it
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deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian jessie main
deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian jessie main
deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian jessie main
deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian jessie main


OR

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deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian jessie main
deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian jessie main
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian jessie main
deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian jessie main


Exit with Ctrl+X and press Y to save the changes.

The next thing we want to do is adding the key from the ppa:

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# apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net --recv-keys F5CFC95C


Update (as root)

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# apt-get update


Install the desktop environment (as root)

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# aptitude install tde-trinity


All done!

PS: If you already have a different desktop environment installed, you can probably select TDE somehere on the login screen after reboot. If not, you will boot into your old desktop environment.

To delete your old desktop environment, type (as root)

# tasksel

Next, unmark the "deskop environment" box, and then apply the changes.

See also: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Debian_ ... structions
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Re: Install TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) on Jessie

Postby dasein » 2015-04-02 18:23

Thanks for this HOWTO, Hallvor.

Here's a shout-out to Exegnulinux, a TDE-based Debian respin; a jessie-based version is here: http://exegnulinux.net/downloads/jessie/

TDE makes a very respectable entry among what passes for "lightweight" DE's in today's world. Last time I tested it, TDE's resource usage was on par with Xfce.
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Re: Install TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) on Jessie

Postby geoaraujo » 2015-12-06 15:33

I've installed Debian 8.2 with no desktop environment in VirtualBox to test Trinity. However, I've used the instructions from the TDE Wiki to install it. I suppose that the personal package archive that the OP suggested points to the same files..? Anyway, all went nice.

dasein wrote:Here's a shout-out to Exegnulinux, a TDE-based Debian respin; a jessie-based version is here: http://exegnulinux.net/downloads/jessie/


There's also Q4OS, which is based on Debian as well and uses a customized TDE too.
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Re: Install TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) on Jessie

Postby Hallvor » 2015-12-06 18:07

It should be the same files from Timothy Pearson, but I'll add the wiki mirror.
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Re: Install TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) on Jessie

Postby dzz » 2015-12-06 18:37

Here's a shout-out to Exegnulinux, a TDE-based Debian respin; a jessie-based version is here: http://exegnulinux.net/downloads/jessie/


Thanks dasein but please note Jessie versions are actually now Devuan-based.

Hallvors points about TDE are mostly correct. I have used it from it's very beginning on Debian (then squeeze) with great success. I also use xfce4, which here is selectable from TDE login manager (TDM). TDE has proven to be stable, full-featured, customizable yet still low-resource. It is also actively maintained with a new "point release" only last week.

If you want to reduce the "bloat" of a full TDE install you can install components selectively rather than the full tde-trinity "meta" (the exegnu images remain <700MB)
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Re: Install TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) on Jessie

Postby geoaraujo » 2015-12-06 22:27

dzz wrote: If you want to reduce the "bloat" of a full TDE install you can install components selectively rather than the full tde-trinity "meta" (the exegnu images remain <700MB)

Do you know if that is also true when installing TDE on Debian via the ppas mentioned above ? Install something like "tde-core-trinity" instead of "tde-trinity"?
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Re: Install TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) on Jessie

Postby dzz » 2015-12-07 01:38

Do you know if that is also true when installing TDE on Debian via the ppas mentioned above ? Install something like "tde-core-trinity" instead of "tde-trinity"?

Essentially, yes, that's what I meant. Individual packages are installable for Debian, testing/sid however is as always a "moving target"

TDE packages have a "-trinity" suffix to avoid confusion with kde4. They install to /opt/ therefore it is possible to run even with kde4 installed. Before anyone makes that suggestion, it's not possible to make a comparison with kde4 as that now is, since TDE is a maintained "fork" of (officially abandoned) kde3 as of some years.

FYI.. TDE does not use qt4, qt3 was also forked to what is now tqt. TDE also does not require systemd nor it's deps, except dbus which (official Debian version) depends libsystemd0. There are no plans to introduce hard systemd requirement for TDE.

Take it or leave it, it's GPL.
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Re: Install TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) on Jessie

Postby dasein » 2015-12-07 02:43

dzz wrote:
Here's a shout-out to Exegnulinux, a TDE-based Debian respin; a jessie-based version is here: http://exegnulinux.net/downloads/jessie/


Thanks dasein but please note Jessie versions are actually now Devuan-based.

Sold! (starting download)

Thank you for the effort you put into Exegnulinux, dzz. Something that was already very cool is now even cooler. :cool:

Suddenly, I'm very glad I never purged all my old KDE 3.x themes, etc. (Took my own advice and didn't worry about the <$0.01 worth of disk space I'd save.)

Though I have to say, for truly serious work, KDE 4.x still has one feature I've never seen anywhere else (except for Fluxbox): window-tabbing. There is just nothing handier for streamlining rapid and repeated switching among apps.

Edit: So far, a Live-CD test-drive of Devuan-based Exegnulinux is a dream. Very. Cool. Stuff. :cool:
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Re: Install TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) on Jessie

Postby geoaraujo » 2015-12-18 16:19

Yep, Trinity is up and running on my "new" Acer Aspire One D260 with Debian 8.2! :mrgreen:
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Re: Install TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) on Jessie

Postby Innovate » 2015-12-27 02:50

Thank you, I've this seen on Q4OS.
Now finally there's a tutorial to install TDE arrived on Debian Tutorial section.
not only knowledge I gain from TDE

Also I gained "tasksel" command as well thanks to you.
Now I can choose stuff to install i want on OS even without CD.
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Re: Install TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) on Jessie

Postby xinu » 2016-07-08 16:58

No LUCK here :

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# apt-get install tde-trinity
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 tde-trinity : Depends: tde-core-trinity (>= 4:14.0.0~) but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: tdeedu-trinity (>= 4:14.0.0~) but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: tdegames-trinity (>= 4:14.0.0~) but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: tdetoys-trinity (>= 4:14.0.0~) but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: tdeaccessibility-trinity (>= 4:14.0.0~) but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: tdeaddons-trinity (>= 4:14.0.0~) but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: tdeadmin-trinity (>= 4:14.0.0~) but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: tdeartwork-trinity (>= 4:14.0.0~) but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: tdegraphics-trinity (>= 4:14.0.0~) but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: tdemultimedia-trinity (>= 4:14.0.0~) but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: tdenetwork-trinity (>= 4:14.0.0~) but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: tdepim-trinity (>= 4:14.0.0~) but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: tdeutils-trinity (>= 4:14.0.0~) but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: tdewebdev-trinity (>= 4:14.0.0~) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.



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Re: Install TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) on Jessie

Postby Ardouos » 2016-07-08 18:57

Currently using Trinity in a VM, it's temping me to install it on my laptop. ;)
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Re: Install TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) on Jessie

Postby xinu » 2016-07-09 12:48

no one ?
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Re: Install TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) on Jessie

Postby stevepusser » 2016-07-09 18:14

If nothing's wrong with the TDE repositories, 99% of the problems like this are due to the user creating a FrankenDebian beforehand. A properly created TDE repo should not create a FrankenDebian itself.

You can also try and track down the issue by trying a manual install of one of those packages that it says can't be installed, and seeing if the error message sheds more light on the problem. Repeat as necessary until you drill down to the root cause. As in:

Can't install A because B can't be installed.

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apt install B


Can't install B because C can't be installed.
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apt install C


and so on.
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Re: Install TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) on Jessie

Postby Hallvor » 2018-08-22 18:27

Trinity Desktop Environment R14.0.5 is now released.

Release notes: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release ... or_R14.0.5
Bigfixes: https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/showdep ... resolved=0

Runs great on Stretch as well.
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