Adding MX Linux tools to Debian

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Re: Adding MX Linux tools to Debian

Postby sunrat » 2020-08-26 11:16

I just tried adding mx-snapshot to a Buster netinstall with kde-plasma-desktop added and Nvidia driver. No problem installing it except for the repo key. Above instruction failed me but I manually downloaded the mx-19 archive key package and installed it.
Using mx-snapshot seemed to work although there were a few errors and it made an .iso file which booted ok but didn't manage to get as far as GUI login or desktop. I could log in as user or root in terminal though.
I can make another snapshot and log the error messages if anyone's interested.
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Re: Adding MX Linux tools to Debian

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-08-26 14:44

sunrat wrote:No problem installing it except for the repo key. Above instruction failed me but I manually downloaded the mx-19 archive key package and installed it.

How did it fail? I've just tried adding the key to my buster box using my posted method and it worked fine.

And how exactly did you download their key? I can't find a Release.key in the MX repositories :?

sunrat wrote:I can make another snapshot and log the error messages if anyone's interested.

Perhaps a new thread would be more appropriate for that. I think the MX devs would be interested in cross-platform support for their application if you can suffer their over-assertive administration team :mrgreen:
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Re: Adding MX Linux tools to Debian

Postby Bulkley » 2020-08-26 16:39

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http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/pool/main/m/mx19-archive-keyring/
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Re: Adding MX Linux tools to Debian

Postby sunrat » 2020-08-26 21:36

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:How did it fail? I've just tried adding the key to my buster box using my posted method and it worked fine.

Never mind - newbie error. :oops:
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sunrat wrote:I can make another snapshot and log the error messages if anyone's interested.

Perhaps a new thread would be more appropriate for that. I think the MX devs would be interested in cross-platform support for their application if you can suffer their over-assertive administration team :mrgreen:

Will do. A tool like this could be useful considering Systemback is defunct and Refracta I'm not sure. Currently trying to get my head around Debian live-build but brain is progressing slowly on that. :|
Main error while preparing to run appeared to be something about KIO not recognising "file" something which just seemed to not allow selecting a non-default location to save the snapshot. Guessing it's a KDE thing.
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Re: Adding MX Linux tools to Debian

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-08-27 08:29

Bulkley wrote:
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http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/pool/main/m/mx19-archive-keyring/

Fantastic, thank you very much :)

I'm sure I tried installing the keyring .deb before without success but I must have tried a different package...

sunrat wrote:Refracta I'm not sure

The Refracta tools are alive and well, fsmithred is still maintaining them.

There is also live-sdk, which looks very interesting.
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Re: Adding MX Linux tools to Debian

Postby sunrat » 2020-08-27 09:11

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:The Refracta tools are alive and well, fsmithred is still maintaining them.

There is also live-sdk, which looks very interesting.


Looks interesting but they are both based on Devuan. My ultimate goal is a vanilla Debian system (which has systemd) with minimal Plasma desktop from kde-plasma-desktop with a bunch of audio production packages, with custom tweaks to optimise audio performance. Basically a live installable .iso of what I use for audio production.
I'll try mx-snapshot again for science and will look more into refracta-snapshot, but it looks like Debian live-build may be the right tool.
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Re: Adding MX Linux tools to Debian

Postby sunrat » 2020-08-27 22:35

Good news, everyone! Update - the mx-snapshot worked. As it booted to a console I figured it must be a graphics issue and maybe it wasn't loading the nvidia drivers I have on the installed system I used for the snapshot.
Added a simple GRUB option "xorg=nvidia" and it booted up to Plasma desktop. 8) :D
Obviously if I make a snapshot to share it won't have nvidia driver installed.
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Re: Adding MX Linux tools to Debian

Postby sgosnell » 2020-09-11 18:46

When I installed the keyring .deb with gdebi it didn't work, for some reason, but dpkg did the job. I started reading the list of MX packages and my eyes glazed over. Most seem to be the same as Debian. Is there a list anywhere that has just the packages unique to MX, or that are significantly changed from the Debian package?
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Re: Adding MX Linux tools to Debian

Postby sickpig » 2020-09-11 20:11

sgosnell wrote:Is there a list anywhere that has just the packages unique to MX, or that are significantly changed from the Debian package?


comment out everything else and just leave mx repo active then do
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apt list

And you should start a new thread as your question is not really concerned with this howto.
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Re: Adding MX Linux tools to Debian

Postby sgosnell » 2020-09-11 22:16

It's pertinent to whether someone would consider it worth the trouble to do it. It's easy enough to pipe the list through grep, but that's just a list of all the MX package, which I already have. What's so new and shiny about the MX packages, that would tempt someone to go to the trouble of getting them? I admit I've never spent any time researching MX.
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Re: Adding MX Linux tools to Debian

Postby sickpig » 2020-09-11 22:31

sgosnell wrote: I admit I've never spent any time researching MX.

Well if you do you will realize their utility.
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Re: Adding MX Linux tools to Debian

Postby sgosnell » 2020-09-11 23:22

Well that's why I asked. Just looking for a link to something that lists the packages unique to MX.
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Re: Adding MX Linux tools to Debian

Postby sickpig » 2020-09-11 23:28

"MX tools" they are what yast is to open suse. equally good.
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Re: Adding MX Linux tools to Debian

Postby sunrat » 2020-09-12 00:21

Be aware that MX tools were developed specifically for MX and mostly for their Xfce version for which they are quite functional and useful. They may not work at all or work as expected in Debian. Their recent KDE version has only a limited subset because of this.
MX also does not use Systemd as default and uses a custom GRUB so anything depending on these may be suboptimal. For instance the mx-snapshot of my Buster/KDE system takes ages to boot to login including some worrying instances of the screen turning entirely black for many seconds during boot sequence. It seems to work ok once booted though.
I have abandoned the Debian media respin I was attempting to create with mx-snapshot and plan instead to learn Debian live-build to create it sometime soon.
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Re: Adding MX Linux tools to Debian

Postby Deb-fan » 2020-09-12 00:47

sgosnell wrote:When I installed the keyring .deb with gdebi it didn't work, for some reason, but dpkg did the job. I started reading the list of MX packages and my eyes glazed over. Most seem to be the same as Debian. Is there a list anywhere that has just the packages unique to MX, or that are significantly changed from the Debian package?


Feel compelled to comment, based on Debian ... "Debian based" basically means, Debian gnu/Linux renamed something else, while there's a bit more to it and not to take away from the enhancements or efforts whichever Debian based distro maintainers-devs include in the configurations of Debian they put out, plenty of really cool Debian based with useful features and things their userbases enjoy, not going to be found on Debian itself out-of-box ... so it's all good. Only yeah, they're bound to be 99.999% Debian gnu/Linux. Debian can easily be config'ed to do the same as any and/or all of them given the required effort, know-how and desire to set things up in such a way.

Never tried it but based on @Stevepussers efforts, things he's mentioned here/there and having seen the guy online many places, over many yrs and feel somewhat gotten to know him, imo he's a very competent nixer and a good guy, who clearly puts much effort into Mx and supporting gnu/Nix too, think it-Mx must be some Nixy goodness. Haven't read this tute either, though Head_on tends to really know his stuff so am sure it's valid and useful info. This has been a Debian fanboi moment, lol ... just keeping it real homies.

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Oops, post fanboi moment( DO IT ! ... HAIL DEBIAN !), if you've added or do add MX repo's, then supplemented via google search, surely in gnu/Nix there's an easy way to list out the pkgs in/from a given repo. Don't know the cmd involved off the top though. Shouldn't take much effort to find out how ...
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