How to Rip CSS Protected DVDs

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Re: How to Rip CSS Protected DVDs

Postby esp7 » 2017-05-11 18:11

dasein wrote:...which is illegal even to possess in the USA. (Just sayin')

although death penalty, owning guns, bombing humanitarian hospitals and invading other countries is perfectly legal. pardon me that I don't really care about your country :wink: fix your country and vote for the right people, try to get rid of your ridiculous voting system etc... but to be honest, I think the US of A is broken beyond repair and soon nearing total collapse.

//END OFFTOPIC

on topic: it should be regulated by EU that vendors should be penalized if they sell crippled material with half working functionalities. seriously, latest DVD9 even don't show up on your computer and it's not a linux issue. if they don't want to have us playing generic DVD disks in computer they should invent another medium. all DRM has to be destroyed rather sooner than later.
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Re: How to Rip CSS Protected DVDs

Postby RU55EL » 2017-05-11 19:03

dasein wrote:
debiman wrote:^ https://www.videolan.org/legal.html

"allows circumvention in some cases" ... hmmm...

Circumvention is not the issue. Under 17 U.S.C. § 1201(a)(2), mere possession of libdvdcss is illegal in the US, even if one never uses it.

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Understood.

Thanks for the response. (What the heck is this county turning into?)
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Re: How to Rip CSS Protected DVDs

Postby dasein » 2017-05-11 19:42

RU55EL wrote:Thanks for the response. (What the heck is this county turning into?)

Actually, this law was passed almost 20 years ago. The M in DMCA stands for "Millenium"
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Re: How to Rip CSS Protected DVDs

Postby phenest » 2017-05-11 20:16

esp7 wrote:it should be regulated by EU

You mean the same EU that wanted some popular fruits to be a certain shape? I'm glad we're leaving.
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Re: How to Rip CSS Protected DVDs

Postby Dai_trying » 2017-05-11 20:50

phenest wrote:
esp7 wrote:it should be regulated by EU

You mean the same EU that wanted some popular fruits to be a certain shape? I'm glad we're leaving.

I just fell off my chair, a big +1
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Re: How to Rip CSS Protected DVDs

Postby phenest » 2017-05-11 21:26

esp7 wrote:if they don't want to have us playing generic DVD disks in computer they should invent another medium

They did. It's called Blu-ray.
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Re: How to Rip CSS Protected DVDs

Postby FreewheelinFrank » 2017-05-12 05:33

phenest wrote:
esp7 wrote:it should be regulated by EU

You mean the same EU that wanted some popular fruits to be a certain shape? I'm glad we're leaving.


It seems to be a common explanation from those happy we are leaving about why they are happy we are leaving.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/s ... 856215de0f
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Re: How to Rip CSS Protected DVDs

Postby Dai_trying » 2017-05-12 06:56

FreewheelinFrank wrote:
phenest wrote:
esp7 wrote:it should be regulated by EU

You mean the same EU that wanted some popular fruits to be a certain shape? I'm glad we're leaving.


It seems to be a common explanation from those happy we are leaving about why they are happy we are leaving.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/s ... 856215de0f


I wanted to respond to this with many reasons we should leave vs the few reasons to stay, but realised we have wandered a distance from the topic so will not do so.
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Re: How to Rip CSS Protected DVDs

Postby phenest » 2017-05-12 16:03

Off topic:
I was going to explain the joke, but as you say...

On topic:
Given that this topic has legal issues, should we continue discussing it?
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Re: How to Rip CSS Protected DVDs

Postby esp7 » 2017-05-12 16:32

phenest wrote:On topic:
Given that this topic has legal issues, should we continue discussing it?


Legal issues? There are none legal issues for making a backup of your own dvd movies. DMCA is a nice thing and all but it does not apply where I and many others live. So it's fine to have old CSS circumventing software in the Debian official repositories, but apps able to circumvent latest CSS are not able to be discussed? Come on... you are smarter than this I hope :wink: So basically you also state that Videolan has compiled free software code available on their website which we cannot discuss on debian forum? DMCA is worthless in more than half of the world. No need to force worldwide censorship because of a totalitarian USA regime, called land of the free hopefully saved by Lord.

//offtopic: I would be happy to further discuss political topics in the offtopic subforum, but at least we should increase the arguments from the banana level to the level discussion will make sense :mrgreen:
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Re: How to Rip CSS Protected DVDs

Postby phenest » 2017-05-12 17:31

I don't know where you live, but in the US and here in the UK, it is most definitely illegal to make backups.
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Re: How to Rip CSS Protected DVDs

Postby debiman » 2017-05-13 09:59

phenest wrote:You mean the same EU that wanted some popular fruits to be a certain shape? I'm glad we're leaving.
my counry is still in the EU, and bananas are still bent here :D

but it reminds me of much worse EU sins... images like these were very common in th 80s; rotting tomatoes bulldozed over on a skip in spain... the famous butter mountain...
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Re: How to Rip CSS Protected DVDs

Postby phenest » 2017-05-13 18:37

They're still bent in the UK. I think the stories were meant to be tongue in cheek to illustrate how stupid some EU decisions are.

Boy, has this wandered off topic. Now we're talking about bananas.
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Re: How to Rip CSS Protected DVDs

Postby esp7 » 2017-05-13 19:46

the whole brexit campaign was a joke, no need to keep bashing the non conventional bananas. let's see how your economy will proceed, i remember when i had to travel a lot to witham for work that once you leave london, poverty is smashed in your face and time stood still since many years ago. on top, the whole economy is so much depending on the financial markets, the brexit can be a real party pooper over time as protectionism is not the ideal solution in a failing global free market. at least i am confident Nigel Farage will protect your bananas :wink:
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Re: How to Rip CSS Protected DVDs

Postby ruffwoof » 2017-05-13 23:36

esp7 wrote:i remember when i had to travel a lot to witham for work that once you leave london, poverty is smashed in your face and time stood still since many years ago. on top, the whole economy is so much depending on the financial markets, the brexit can be a real party pooper over time as protectionism is not the ideal solution in a failing global free market.

World Institute for Development Economics Research : assets of $2,200 per adult placed a household in the top half of the world wealth distribution in the year 2000. To be among the richest 10% of adults in the world required $61,000 in assets.

25 million homes in the UK of which 7 out of 10 are owner occupiers. There alone indicates that the UK has significant numbers of those that are in the worlds top 10% richest.

Protectionism is a option that avoids dilution down to a lower common denominator.

As for OP pdvdrstab might be an alternative ???

I have a version of that program working in Debian Jessie (standard (command line only) with xorg/jwm/rox/pcmanfm ... installed on top), but had to get gtkdialog(3) up and running (along with installing additional programs from the Debian repository) ... but I haven't used it in any meaningful way.
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