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install debian 9.7.0 not booting

Postby richjoh » 2019-02-12 03:13

Install Debian 9.7.0 to a second HD (120GigByte), chose option to install Grub to sdb drive but unable to boot. I want to install Grub to the second HD and not over my windows MBR, sda. I set my BIOS to boot from sdb it fails.

I copy debian 9.7.0 DVD1, DVD2 and DVD3 iso to a usb stick, boot from the usb for the install. I used WinSetupFromUSB_1-8_X64 to write multiple ISOs to a single USB stick. I'm new to Debian of course. Is this a bug? Is there a fix?

My hardware is Clevo laptop, model P151SM1, Intel Core i7-4900MQ CPU @ 2.80GHz. Tried uploading a pic, Apache server error.

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Re: install debian 9.7.0 not booting

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2019-02-12 07:09

Have you disabled Secure Boot?

GRUB should detect Windows and make a boot entry for it if your firmware ("BIOS") is unable to boot from the second drive.
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Re: install debian 9.7.0 not booting

Postby richjoh » 2019-02-12 11:07

"Secure Boot", if that's the password to run BIOS then boot up, I don't have it enabled. If that's not it then what ...
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Re: install debian 9.7.0 not booting

Postby p.H » 2019-02-12 11:55

richjoh wrote:I set my BIOS to boot from sdb it fails.

How does it fail ? What happens ?
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Re: install debian 9.7.0 not booting

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2019-02-12 19:08

richjoh wrote:"Secure Boot", if that's the password to run BIOS then boot up

Nope.

Use a search engine ffs.
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Re: install debian 9.7.0 not booting

Postby stevepusser » 2019-02-12 19:10

richjoh wrote:"Secure Boot", if that's the password to run BIOS then boot up, I don't have it enabled. If that's not it then what ...


No, Secure Boot is different. You usually find its setting under Security in the Setup. Debian currently does not work with Secure Boot turned on.
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Re: install debian 9.7.0 not booting

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2019-02-12 19:20

stevepusser wrote:Debian currently does not work with Secure Boot turned on.

Actually, testing/unstable can be made to work with it enabled:

https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot/Testing

Hopefully Debian 10 will support Secure Boot OOTB.
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Re: install debian 9.7.0 not booting

Postby richjoh » 2019-02-13 00:42

Turns out I'm running Legacy Boot Loader, no Secure Boot. My BIOS is Aptio Setup Utility, 1.00.01 (c) 2012. It's as if the BIOS doesn't allow me to set both disc as boot disk, I'm able to set 1 as boot but not both. "Hard Drive BBS Priorities" menu list both drive. But Boot Option #1 is WinSSD & Boot Option#2 is Realtek PXE B05 D00. If I set sdb (Debian) to Boot Option #1 it doesn't boot. Blinking underscore. There is a UEFI menu in the BIOS, but only gives me "Network stack" as a UEFI Boot option.

I think my problem is setting this BIOS to see both drives during boot up and so far I can't find that setting.

Well I also don't follow if I wrote the Grub to sdb why doesn't Debian 9.7.0 boot? I get nothing even if I choose Boot Override of sdb from inside the BIOS.
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Re: install debian 9.7.0 not booting

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2019-02-13 07:15

richjoh wrote:If I set sdb (Debian) to Boot Option #1 it doesn't boot. Blinking underscore.

Can you switch to a console screen with <ctrl>+<alt>+F2?

Have you tried disabling modesetting?

https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting#Disabling_KMS

A "blinking underscore" usually indicates that the system is booted but the graphics drivers have failed.

@p.H may have better advice, they're good with this sort of thing.
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Re: install debian 9.7.0 not booting

Postby richjoh » 2019-02-20 05:07

Let me check if I got this correct. AMD64 Debian runs Intel based PC 64bit correct? The AMD64 9.7.0 is what fails to boot each time I install Debian 9.7.0 DVD iso1, iso2 and iso3. The i386 Debian is the 32 bit Intel/MS PC version correct? Or do I have this wrong?
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Re: install debian 9.7.0 not booting

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2019-02-20 07:07

richjoh wrote:AMD64 Debian runs Intel based PC 64bit correct?

amd64 is for all 64-bit x86 CPUs.

richjoh wrote:The i386 Debian is the 32 bit Intel/MS PC version correct?

i386 is for all 32-bit x86 CPUs.
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Re: install debian 9.7.0 not booting

Postby p.H » 2019-02-20 14:22

richjoh wrote:Turns out I'm running Legacy Boot Loader

How do you know ?
richjoh wrote:If I set sdb (Debian) to Boot Option #1 it doesn't boot. Blinking underscore.

Before or after the GRUB menu ?
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Re: install debian 9.7.0 not booting

Postby bw123 » 2019-02-20 15:58

... I used WinSetupFromUSB_1-8_X64 to write multiple ISOs to a single USB stick...


Why do it that way, instead of the right way? Multi-iso things are known to cause problems. You could make a good install media the right way and reinstall grub from rescue mode in the installer?


https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual

There's also a nice FAQ where you got the dvd iso https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/ be sure and check that out.
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Re: install debian 9.7.0 not booting

Postby richjoh » 2019-02-22 05:26

I know I'm running Legacy Boot Loader, Win10 System reports BIOS Mode "Legacy". Also from the BIOS menu, only PXE Lan Boot is only option for UEFI boot.

From my BIOS I can do a "force boot". I select sdb them immediately (<<1sec) you get the blinking underscore.I never get a GRUB menu booting from sdb (Debian install HD)

I will go back and create an install USB with Debian dvd1 iso.
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Re: install debian 9.7.0 not booting

Postby richjoh » 2019-02-24 07:27

Still no luck on booting up Debian. This time I added a 750G SATA HD to Port 0. Previously tried SATA Port5 that is an mSATA drive. My Win10 is installed on SATA Port4 SSD.

During install, when I got to "Install the GRUB boot loader on a hard disk" the install detected "Windows Vista" and "Debian GNU/Linux 9(stretch). I installed the Boot Loader to Debian disk, since I don't want to overwrite my Win Sys. Its reporting "debian" at this step because the initial disk I where I made attempts to install is there too.

I install GRUB to the disk where Debian exist, boot up fails. Has anyone successfully tried this?
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