Stretch - sudo package and more

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Re: Stretch - sudo package and more

Postby kedaha » 2017-08-10 21:40

You've said you "can't finish the installation" of the non-free iso. What iso is it? How far did you get with it? Did you just install a basic system or did you install a full-blown desktop? It's also possible the unofficial image you downloaded was corrupt. Maybe it'd be better or simpler just to download an official network install ("netinst.iso") and also copy the firmware-iwlwifi package to a pendrive and insert it in a USB port so that the the debian-installer can automatically configure the network and apt for you. By the way, can't you just use a wired connection for installation?
Alternatively, if you don't want to give up yet on your present installation yet, then you might like to try and install the firmware exactly as I posted in reply to timshel's topic here, although he chose to reinstall.
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Re: Stretch - sudo package and more

Postby dasein » 2017-08-10 21:45

Good idea. Debian isn't newbie-friendly and doesn't try to be.

When/if you run into trouble over there, do everyone a favor and don't post 3 Mpx screen shots. They take way too long to load and diminish folks' willingness to help you.
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Re: Stretch - sudo package and more

Postby ElstonGunnn » 2017-08-10 22:02

kedaha wrote:You've said you "can't finish the installation" of the non-free iso. What iso is it? How far did you get with it? Did you just install a basic system or did you install a full-blown desktop? It's also possible the unofficial image you downloaded was corrupt. Maybe it'd be better or simpler just to download an official network install ("netinst.iso") and also copy the firmware-iwlwifi package to a pendrive and insert it in a USB port so that the the debian-installer can automatically configure the network and apt for you. By the way, can't you just use a wired connection for installation?
Alternatively, if you don't want to give up yet on your present installation yet, then you might like to try and install the firmware exactly as I posted in reply to timshel's topic here, although he chose to reinstall.


I downloaded the non-free version from here:
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unof ... -firmware/

I choose "9.1.0+nonfree/". Then, "amd64/". Then, "iso-cd/". And I downloaded the archive "firmware-9.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso". But I didn't download the other archives: MD5SUMS, MD5SUMS.sign, etc.

Is that ok?
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Re: Stretch - sudo package and more

Postby kedaha » 2017-08-10 22:13

Someone else will advise; I'm not familiar with the non-free isos but I would've thought that after editing /etc/apt/sources.list to include the non-free and contrib components, the firmware would be installable after running apt-get update.
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Re: Stretch - sudo package and more

Postby ElstonGunnn » 2017-08-10 22:21

kedaha wrote:Someone else will advise; I'm not familiar with the non-free isos but I would've thought that after editing /etc/apt/sources.list to include the non-free and contrib components, the firmware would be installable after running apt-get update.


But when I do that is when I have the connection errors :?
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Re: Stretch - sudo package and more

Postby kedaha » 2017-08-10 22:42

Too late at night for me to —yawn—look at it now but tomorrow'll be another day.
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Re: Stretch - sudo package and more

Postby eor2004 » 2017-08-10 22:46

Hi Guys, @OP: Go to this thread, read a little and then follow the advice/commands given by "Bulkley": viewtopic.php?f=5&t=130558 the way I see it maybe this is related to your problem, a little while ago on a fresh debian stretch install I could not install anything using apt-get or synaptic, then I followed Bulkley's advice and was able to update repositories and install updates and packages, maybe you should try it just in case, good luck!
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Re: Stretch - sudo package and more

Postby sunrat » 2017-08-11 00:20

I just tried to go to http://deb.debian.org/debian in browser and got 404 Not Found error. However when I checked my own sources.list it has a trailing slash after the url, and this works. Try modifying your sources to add this eg:

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deb  http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free

not sure if a server glitch or the wiki is wrong. :shock:
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Re: Stretch - sudo package and more

Postby ElstonGunnn » 2017-08-11 00:46

sunrat wrote:I just tried to go to http://deb.debian.org/debian in browser and got 404 Not Found error. However when I checked my own sources.list it has a trailing slash after the url, and this works. Try modifying your sources to add this eg:

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deb  http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free

not sure if a server glitch or the wiki is wrong. :shock:


Oh damn! I uninstalled debian and now I'm installing ubuntu. I think I will try debian again in some months.

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Re: Stretch - sudo package and more

Postby kedaha » 2017-08-11 07:11

Looks like you're having a hard time with this.
ElstonGunnn wrote:Yes, I think I'm going to Ubuntu. I can't do this.

dasein wrote:Good idea. Debian isn't newbie-friendly and doesn't try to be.

Debian will never just facilitate out-of-the-box enabling of proprietary, binary-only drivers, which are kept at arm's length. Debian has a reputation for security and stability to keep up; it is used primarily for running secure servers so conscientious systems administrators think not twice but several times before installing non-free software, even from Debian's own non-free repository, because of security concerns. There's no way non-free source code can be audited by Debian in the event of vulnerabilities, which is a vulnerability in and of itself. Finally, where remote servers are administered from a local machine, non-free software is best avoided for similar reasons, even on a desktop system. Installing proprietary drivers isn't difficult for more experienced users but it's not so easy to help when questions are left unanswered or suggestions aren't tried.
ElstonGunnn wrote:Oh damn! I uninstalled debian and now I'm installing ubuntu. I think I will try debian again in some months.

Debian can indeed be uninstalled by installing Ubuntu; it's up to the user.
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Re: Stretch - sudo package and more

Postby GarryRicketson » 2017-08-12 02:49

sunrat wrote:I just tried to go to http://deb.debian.org/debian in browser and got 404 Not Found error. However when I checked my own sources.list it has a trailing slash after the url, and this works. Try modifying your sources to add this eg:

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deb  http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free

not sure if a server glitch or the wiki is wrong. :shock:


I was just now checking this out, was going to edit the wiki,
but could not get the url you show to work either, so then I tried the
urls I had, on the server, the last time I installed anything and did security updates
my sources.list worked fine, the urls were fine, none of them work now,....
so I don't know what the deal is. Certainly can not, and will not edit the wiki,
if I do not know what the correct urls should be. I did send a note to the mailing list,
maybe somebody will know how to edit correctly, or if it some thing else.
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Re: Stretch - sudo package and more

Postby sunrat » 2017-08-12 03:43

@GarryRicketson: see viewtopic.php?f=20&t=134288
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Re: Stretch - sudo package and more

Postby GarryRicketson » 2017-08-12 10:28

Thanks, I did see it, I had not noticed the new thread, when I posted here,
probably because I had not gotten that far in my "unread" posts list.
When I saw this, I stopped where I was, and started looking at wiki, etc.
And finally ended up sending a e-mail to the mail list, so hope fully some
one takes a look, and maybe edits or adds some sort of explanation.

If not , later today I will add a comment, pointing to the thread you started,
that way if any do have problems with using the example, they can refer to
the thread, and try using the :
sunrat wrote: However when I checked my own default sources.list (in sid) it has a trailing slash after the url, and this works. Try modifying your sources to add this eg:

I have run into the 404 Not Found error, when looking at them with a browser before
in the past, but the same as other have mentioned, when installing a package, they worked fine.
It could be confusing to some one new, so in any event I think some additional explanation is warranted.
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Re: Stretch - sudo package and more

Postby esalvesen » 2017-08-13 09:49

Thank You all for helping me with my Toshiba Tecra S4 running sid.
I installed "firmware-iwlwifi" and ran
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modprobe iwlwifi
so now I have wifi.

Best Regards from Erik.
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