Installation on i6200U NUC

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Re: Installation on i6200U NUC

Postby swmcl » 2018-01-20 01:22

@ dotij - OK will do.

I am old-school so having the BIOS set to older ways is good for me.

Yes, two hard drives, one is an M.2 SSD and eventually the second will be a 2.5" SATA. Both have been seen (when both are connected) as sda or sdb etc.

The only mention of UEFI in the BIOS was something to do with 'other PCI devices' which I have set to 'legacy'. BIOS is American Megatrends 2.18.1263.

I have not ever known how to install using backports.

Now going to try the 'graphical expert install' mode...
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Re: Installation on i6200U NUC

Postby swmcl » 2018-01-20 01:42

Nope.

Installation fails at the kernel loading stage. It doesn't have any issues up to that point. I can set keyboards, time, wifi - even when I need a specific driver that is loaded on a USB key. It also partitions the disk (I simply go with the all-in-one guided solution with one partition of "/" and a suggested 8.5Gb of swap).

There is nothing stopping it from retrieving a kernel from the web but I don't see it doing so.

I selected the default options at nearly every turn.

Thanks again,
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Re: Installation on i6200U NUC

Postby stevepusser » 2018-01-20 01:47

I believe the sixth generation is Skylake, like mine, and will run just fine on the stock kernel. You need some firmware from the non-free firmware-linux-nonfree package for sound and video performance, though. All intel chipsets from Skylake on up need that. Try the Debian iso that includes non-free firmware like Mint has already on there...or MX, which might also work.

How is the NUC trying to access the web during install? With a wired or wireless connection? Be aware that almost all wi-fi needs non-free firmware, otherwise you have no connection.

Mint includes the inxi utility...give us the results of the

Code: Select all
inxi -F


command so we have a clue of what hardware is in the darn thing.
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Re: Installation on i6200U NUC

Postby swmcl » 2018-01-20 03:17

Just for kicks because I do have another NUC-type device for my firewall I thought I'd try to install pfSense 2.3.4.

My other NUC is an i5 7200U a Skylake - so it is newer.

pfSense has installed on the i5 6200U without issue.

I believe I can now say that the problem is not with BIOS.
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Re: Installation on i6200U NUC

Postby swmcl » 2018-01-20 03:25

Steve,

The installer asks for a iwlwifi-7260-17.ucode which I have on a USB key at root level and I plug that key into the machine at the back. The installer goes ahead and finds the file without issue and then I put in the passkey to access my home wifi WAP that has full security. I believe I have proper connectivity to wifi.

I haven't tried any other version of Debian nor have I downloaded it because of the data limit at my ISP. I guess that downloading a full DVD iso from Debian is the next option...

I am pleased to see that pfSense booted from the single M.2 hard drive.

Thanks for the help.
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Re: Installation on i6200U NUC

Postby swmcl » 2018-01-20 03:35

Hummmpf !!

i5 6200U is actually a Skylake ...

Well there you have it.

Its just that I wish it were the i5 7200U like my other machine because pfSense has been working on that without issue for a few months.

Hopefully I can get the 6200U working soon.
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Re: Installation on i6200U NUC

Postby swmcl » 2018-01-20 05:13

OK.

Debian Live 9.3.0 amd64 cinnamon + non-free iso was downloaded and burnt with verification to DVD at the slowest speed possible.

It ran fine. I logged onto my wifi and surfed the Internet. Then I shutdown because I think Debian won't install from the live cd session.

I then rebooted and selected the graphical install option.

It proceeded to install but failed at the 'install base system' part. The errors are different though.

kernel: 310.185270 SQUASHFS error: Unable to read page, block 3eac3b8, size 429c
...
Unable to read data cache entry [3eac3b8]
...
tar process copying live system failed
...
process: 8815 tar: read error
...
process: 8815 tar: short read
,,,
failed error code 1
...

Next ??
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Re: Installation on i6200U NUC

Postby dotlj » 2018-01-20 09:20

I get the impression that you are only using wifi and not using cable connection.
You have done well to install the wifi driver and connect.
Strange that it is having trouble installing the base system. It could be a corrupt install image. Did you check the SHA256SUM?

Try checking the downloaded image before installing it. If the SHA256SUM is good, then try the installer again.
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Re: Installation on i6200U NUC

Postby swmcl » 2018-01-20 20:23

Image checksum is OK from the command line (sha256sum) but not from Gtkhash - I'll assume Gtkhash is not working; no surprise there.

My first install attempt from the live disk was for a targetted install. I wanted the install to be as lean as possible. This reads files one-at-a-time from the DVD as opposed to a whole bunch of files in sequence perhaps when doing the all-in approach.

I'm thinking that the installer is trying to read at a speed that is too high from the DVD and doesn't allow enough latency in file access.

My setup uses a new USB-powered DVD so it doesn't have the grunt of a separately-powered DVD player.

Is there a way to slow down the reading and increase waiting times for files being read from the DVD during installation ? Can one rip the entire DVD into memory (RAM), do a checksum on the contents in RAM and then complete the installation ?
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Re: Installation on i6200U NUC

Postby swmcl » 2018-01-20 20:30

I think I'll try a all-in install where it is bloated. The next step is to try a USB pendrive install although I haven't been successful in making one of those for a while. So much advice on the Internet is wrong.

Anyone got any better ideas ??
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Re: Installation on i6200U NUC

Postby swmcl » 2018-01-20 21:10

I have tried to see where I could install a targetted system and I can't so I tried another bloated one instead. No luck.

I then made a USB key using unetbootin and tried to install using this medium.

The results were the same as before but a different block number - 51b0034.

So it fails the base install from USB-DVD and USB3-pendrive.

Goody.
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Re: Installation on i6200U NUC

Postby swmcl » 2018-01-20 23:48

Progress!

I have created a net install USB pendrive and run it.

It got past the part where it usually fails and now says, "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources".

It then gives me the option to continue without installing a kernel. I answered 'Yes' and it continued for a while.

The failure is now further on ... I forget what.

Now that unetbootin is working it proves my downloads are correct I think.

I've tried a number of other 'solutions' including the live 'testing' iso. This is even worse than the stable one ! It couldn't pick up the ethernet nor the wifi !!

Seriously bent is Debian. I'm exhausted.
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Re: Installation on i6200U NUC

Postby bw123 » 2018-01-21 00:03

swmcl wrote:Progress!

Seriously bent is Debian. I'm exhausted.



Funny!


stevepusser wrote:...so we have a clue of what hardware is in the darn thing.



swmcl wrote:Now that unetbootin is working it proves my downloads are correct I think.


Even funnier!

At least two people have asked for hardware details, and you have plainly ignored the requests, so I'm thinking this is some kind of joke, right?

swmcl wrote:Yes, two hard drives, one is an M.2 SSD and eventually the second will be a 2.5" SATA. Both have been seen (when both are connected) as sda or sdb etc.


This quote of yours at the top of the page was complete nonsense. Two hard drives, the second will "eventually be" something? And both have been seen, as sda or sdb, etc... when both are connected? Are you serious?

This thread is a punk, a pretty good one I guess.
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Re: Installation on i6200U NUC

Postby stevepusser » 2018-01-21 01:40

Lotsa people have problems with unetbootin. Try Rufus on Windows or Etcher on any OS or distro.
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Re: Installation on i6200U NUC

Postby swmcl » 2018-01-23 03:49

Hardware is the IBOX-601 from Iwill Technology in China.

Search for "Ibox 601" on Alibaba.

I can't upload a pdf of their datasheet on this forum.
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