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Has anyone "upgraded" from PointLinux (jessie) to stretch

Postby gulbrain » 2018-02-11 12:05

Hi forum,

I'm new to this, but have been using PointLinux with MATE for a while, keeping it up to date manually with Synaptic Package Manager.

I want to address Spectre and Meltdown on my home PC and it looks like I need to move to a proper Debian, rather than sticking with pointlinux - built on jessie.

There are other niggles that I'm hoping will be fixed by using the latest OS.

I just wondered if anyone had tried a similar upgrade and run into any gotchas. I couldn't see anything pertinent in the documentation, but I may not have been looking for the right words.

I am trying it out on an old laptop first to get the process described and run through in a fashion I can understand. I've already run into a couple of things that I believe I've worked around OK - mostly around configuring sources.list.

If anyone could suggest a summary of the process they would recommend or a good resource for researching this sort of thing, that would be great.

Thank you all,
Tim
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Re: Has anyone "upgraded" from PointLinux (jessie) to stretc

Postby arochester » 2018-02-11 12:08

Not Debian then.

Have you tried the Point Linux Forums? >>> http://forums.pointlinux.org/
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Re: Has anyone "upgraded" from PointLinux (jessie) to stretc

Postby gulbrain » 2018-02-11 21:33

My reasoning for posting here was that I believe I need to move to a Debian proper install, from a pointlinux system that is based on an old Debian because pointlinux does not appear to be updating their releases (the latest appears to be June 2016). Therefore, to have a chance of addressing the current (and future) widely advertised vulnerabilities I need to move to an operating system that is still being maintained.
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Re: Has anyone "upgraded" from PointLinux (jessie) to stretc

Postby bw123 » 2018-02-11 22:05

gulbrain wrote:My reasoning for posting here was that I believe I need to move to a Debian proper install, from a pointlinux system that is based on an old Debian because pointlinux does not appear to be updating their releases (the latest appears to be June 2016). Therefore, to have a chance of addressing the current (and future) widely advertised vulnerabilities I need to move to an operating system that is still being maintained.


I think that makes sense, but to 'move' to debian is to install it fresh. You can try and 'upgrade' from another distro, it might seem to work initially, but it might not be good long-term.

Troubleshooting problems later would be tricky, because you would have to eliminate the possibility of something left over. I don't think many people on here would recommend it or want to help you with it.
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Re: Has anyone "upgraded" from PointLinux (jessie) to stretc

Postby stevepusser » 2018-02-11 22:15

You should be able to use Debian stable release kernels with the Meltdown mitigation backported to them, or a Liquorix 4.14 kernel backported to Jessie from my repo. There is some concern that kernels prior to 4.14.12 use an inferior mitigation method to the ktpi in those, plus 32-bit kernels currently also have no fixes at all. You can also see if you can update your browsers to Spectre-hardened versions, which should be easy on a Jessie base if Point Linux is also using the Debian repositories.
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Re: Has anyone "upgraded" from PointLinux (jessie) to stretc

Postby None1975 » 2018-02-12 15:44

I think it's easier to do a clean install of Debian9.3 and stick with Debian. New projects are born and dying, but Debian is always rock solid in terms of stability and security.
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