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NVIDIA anew with Debian Buster?

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NVIDIA anew with Debian Buster?

#1 Post by nikobit »

Hi all! Is there a way to initiate Debian Buster new installation with non-free NVidia drivers activated? I use this https://dell.to/2rcKp3X machine and this http://bit.ly/2HGjnJe Graphic Card which by chanse is always identified by Debian (both testing and stable) as this http://paste.debian.net/1022795/ card?
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  • OS: Debian 11 bullseye
  • Kernel: x86_64 Linux 5.10.0-19-amd64
  • Shell: bash
  • DE: GNOME 3.38.4
  • CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 @ 8x 4GHz
  • GPU: NVE4
  • RAM: 2384MiB / 15925MiB
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Re: NVIDIA anew with Debian Buster?

#2 Post by sunrat »

No you can't install with Nvidia drivers.
The Dell page says it supports Optimus graphics card switching which would need the bumblebee-nvidia package if you wish to use it. See the wiki.
It may be possible to just disable the onboard Intel graphics and just use the Nvidia. I don't have an X51 so can't check. Don't use Bumblebee if you disable the onboard.
I have a Skylake (non-Optimus) setup and I installed with the onboard graphics connected. After that I installed the nvidia-driver package from the non-free repo then disabled the onboard in UEFI setup, swapped the monitor cable to the Nvidia one and rebooted. Works well for me.
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#3 Post by nikobit »

sunrat wrote:No you can't install with Nvidia drivers.
The Dell page says it supports Optimus graphics card switching which would need the bumblebee-nvidia package if you wish to use it. See the wiki.
Looks like old story with Engineer that invented lightbulb right after Edison. But this time lightbult could work endlessly. Dark Forces found that Engineer and "scared him to death/bought his invention" just to keep people buyng worthless lihtbulbs that keep burning within months of operation. Where all this "NVIDIA Conspiracy Theory" leads our Open Source Society? :lol:
And what about my request to #debian-next and here. By installing 'screenfetch' package I was surprised to see this:

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user@machine:~$ screenfetch 
         _,met$$$$$gg.           user@machine
      ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.        OS: Debian testing buster
    ,g$$P""       """Y$$.".      Kernel: x86_64 Linux 4.15.0-3-amd64
   ,$$P'              `$$$.      Uptime: 41m
  ',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:    Packages: 2760
  `d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$     Shell: bash
   $$P      d$'     ,    $$P     Resolution: 2560x1440
   $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'     DE: GNOME 
   $$\;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      WM: GNOME Shell
   Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'          WM Theme: 
   `$$b      "-.__               GTK Theme: Adwaita [GTK2/3]
    `Y$$                         Icon Theme: Adwaita
     `Y$$.                       Font: Cantarell 11
       `$$b.                     CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 @ 8x 4GHz [53.0°C]
         `Y$$b.                  GPU: GeForce GTX 670
            `"Y$b._              RAM: 1251MiB / 15960MiB
Take a look at 'GPU' part
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  • OS: Debian 11 bullseye
  • Kernel: x86_64 Linux 5.10.0-19-amd64
  • Shell: bash
  • DE: GNOME 3.38.4
  • CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 @ 8x 4GHz
  • GPU: NVE4
  • RAM: 2384MiB / 15925MiB
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Re: NVIDIA anew with Debian Buster?

#4 Post by debiman »

so?
screenfetch recognizing your card doesn't mean the nvidia driver is active.

if you have a problem that you want to solve (other than wanting something that doesn't exist, i.e. an installation medium that already contains nvidia drivers), please provide:

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lspci -k | grep -iEA5 'vga|3d|display'

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#5 Post by nikobit »

debiman wrote:please provide:

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lspci -k | grep -iEA5 'vga|3d|display'
Yes please, here it is:http://paste.debian.net/1023061/

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00:02.0 Display controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
	Subsystem: Dell Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
	Kernel driver in use: i915
	Kernel modules: i915
00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06)
	Subsystem: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller
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01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 [GeForce GTX 670] (rev a1)
	Subsystem: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 [GeForce GTX 760 Ti OEM]
	Kernel driver in use: nouveau
	Kernel modules: nouveau
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 HDMI Audio Controller (rev a1)
	Subsystem: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 HDMI Audio Controller
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  • OS: Debian 11 bullseye
  • Kernel: x86_64 Linux 5.10.0-19-amd64
  • Shell: bash
  • DE: GNOME 3.38.4
  • CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 @ 8x 4GHz
  • GPU: NVE4
  • RAM: 2384MiB / 15925MiB
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Re: NVIDIA anew with Debian Buster?

#6 Post by Wheelerof4te »

You have open source drivers active, but can you use NVIDIA card?
Check this out:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NV ... ng_nouveau
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bu ... _for_Linux
It's for Arch, but applies to all Linux.
Post the results here.

Also, they say someone found Linux Demigod once who could setup [Optimus] Bumblebee and play Civ 6 on max settings :mrgreen:

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#7 Post by stevepusser »

There is a simple recipe for installing bumblebee-nvidia in the Debian wiki that seems to work for most people. Have you tried it?
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#8 Post by sunrat »

stevepusser wrote:There is a simple recipe for installing bumblebee-nvidia in the Debian wiki that seems to work for most people. Have you tried it?
Indeed. The wiki omits mentioning a module building environment needs to be set up first. Just do

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apt install module-assistant
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m-a prepare
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Re: NVIDIA anew with Debian Buster?

#9 Post by llivv »

Did someone say if Linux Demigod still runs init or now has dbus pulse systemd dkms
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#10 Post by nikobit »

sunrat wrote:
stevepusser wrote:There is a simple recipe for installing bumblebee-nvidia Have you tried it?
Indeed. The wiki omits mentioning a module building environment needs to be set up first.

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apt install module-assistant
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m-a prepare
Well. I've performed both of advices one by one starting from the last. Installation seems to be broken. I can't get access to shell. Boot up process stalls at the very beginning with message:

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               Stopping User Manager for UID 117.
[   OK       ] Started Session c2 of user Debian-gdm.
...
[   OK       ] Started Session c503 of user Debian-gdm.
               Starting User Manager for UID 117...
[   OK       ] Started User Manager for UID 117.
               Stopping User Manager for UID 117.
[   OK       ] Started Session c504 of user Debian-gdm.
               Starting User Manager for UID 117...
[   OK       ] Started User Manager for UID 117.
               Stopping User Manager for UID 117.
[   OK       ] Started Session c505 of user Debian-gdm.
[   FAILED] Failed to start User Manager for UID 117.
See 'systemctl status user@117.service' for details.
[   OK       ] Removed slice User Slice of Debian-gdm.
[   OK       ] Created slice User Slice of Debian-gdm.
[   FAILED] Failed to start User Manager for UID 117.
See 'systemctl status user@117.service' for details.
[   OK       ] Started Session c506 of user Debian-gdm.
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Then Boot Up screen just stalls without possibility to switch it over by Ctrl+Alt+F3, etc.
Ok, confes, I have one excessive repository installed in /etc/apt/sources.list from https://wiki.debian.org/Opera. Thats it. Remaining is all by default. Any suggestions how to bring back the Boot Up at least?
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  • OS: Debian 11 bullseye
  • Kernel: x86_64 Linux 5.10.0-19-amd64
  • Shell: bash
  • DE: GNOME 3.38.4
  • CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 @ 8x 4GHz
  • GPU: NVE4
  • RAM: 2384MiB / 15925MiB
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#11 Post by nikobit »

I do not loose hope to get a clue someday on how to install nvidia-proprietary drivers for Buster... So far attempts to follow Wiki.Debian haven't succeeded. For additional help I've asked NVidia forum here. But never got anything back. Most pity thing is I've got it running once. But could not repeat this miracle after re-installing Buster anew.
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  • Shell: bash
  • DE: GNOME 3.38.4
  • CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 @ 8x 4GHz
  • GPU: NVE4
  • RAM: 2384MiB / 15925MiB
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#12 Post by stevepusser »

There are some threads on Reddit and elsewhere that hint that Nvidia driver installation on Buster, and the same version in stretch-backports, is broken for now, but I haven't been able to test that myself yet.
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stevepusser wrote:There are some threads on Reddit and elsewhere that hint that Nvidia driver installation on Buster
It is normal. For testing, packages could be broken for months....
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#14 Post by nikobit »

Never ending story. I did it again. Switched Primary Display from [Auto] to [IGFX] in BIOS. Using https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee tried to install nvidia-based Bumblebee and got the same results. Blank, non responding boot screen is stuck at

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[   5.393286] usb 4-5: device not accepting address 7, error -71
[   5.421334] usb usb4-port5: unable to enumerate USB device
                    Stopping User Manager for UID 114...
[     OK    ] Stopped User Manager for UID 114.
                    Stopping User Runtime Directory /run/user/114...
[     OK    ] Stopped User Runtime Directory /run/user/114.
[     OK    ] Removed slice User Slice of UID 114.
[   FAILED  ] Failed to start Anonymizing overlay network for TCP.
See 'systemctl status tor@default.service' for details.
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Is there a clear guide HOWTO install Bumblebee to the machine mentioned above with Graphic Card mentioned above?
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  • OS: Debian 11 bullseye
  • Kernel: x86_64 Linux 5.10.0-19-amd64
  • Shell: bash
  • DE: GNOME 3.38.4
  • CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 @ 8x 4GHz
  • GPU: NVE4
  • RAM: 2384MiB / 15925MiB
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#15 Post by llivv »

wiki.debian bumblebee wrote:Bumblebee aims to provide support for NVIDIA Optimus laptops for GNU/Linux distributions. Using Bumblebee, you can use your NVIDIA card for rendering graphics which will be displayed using the Intel card.
nikobit wrote:Never ending story. I did it again. Switched Primary Display from [Auto] to [IGFX] in BIOS. Using https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee tried to install [...]
Bumblebee is used for switching betweeen the two GPU's and you disabled the discrete GPU (nVidia) when you "Switched Primary Display from [Auto] to [IGFX] in BIOS"
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3. Need to Know
  • Auto: The video card will be automatically selected by the driver

    IGFX: System will work only using the Integrated Graphics Card and HDMI port.

    Discrete: System will use the discrete video card and the integrated graphics will be disabled.
give it another try when you get a chance..... :wink:
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