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Virtualbox installation

Postby Chrisdb » 2019-01-31 06:30

Hello,

Last night I tried to install debian stretch in virtualbox (Linux Host), but the installation process took more than 2 hours.
I had to terminate the installation because it was getting too late.

Is this a known problem, or did I miss something?

Also, how long does an installation of 'Stretch' normally take ?

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Re: Virtualbox installation

Postby dilberts_left_nut » 2019-01-31 06:55

It depends on what you are installing and where you are installing it from.
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Re: Virtualbox installation

Postby Chrisdb » 2019-01-31 07:04

What you are installing: Debian stretch with Gnome
Where you are installing it from: Virtualbox v6.0.4-1 (on Arch Linux)
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Re: Virtualbox installation

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2019-01-31 07:21

I can't answer your question directly but I would advise against using VirtualBox, both in general (it's shit) and specifically for Debian stretch (it's so shit that the Debian developers removed it just before the release: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=virtualbox&searchon=names&suite=stable&section=all) — try QEMU/KVM instead.
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Re: Virtualbox installation

Postby Dai_trying » 2019-01-31 08:25

Chrisdb wrote:Also, how long does an installation of 'Stretch' normally take ?


I can usually perform a full install in less than 15 minutes, if it is particularly old hardware (probably not the case here as you are using VirtualBox) it could take longer.
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Re: Virtualbox installation

Postby stevepusser » 2019-01-31 18:06

I've had it take that long, on not particularly old hardware, but with a comparatively slow Net connection. Virtual Box slows down the install quite a bit compared to a bare-metal install, too.

There are Debian derivatives that just blast an image onto the disk without getting anything from the Net, though--MX and antiX are ones that I know well. That takes about five minutes.
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Re: Virtualbox installation

Postby Dai_trying » 2019-01-31 23:22

Yes, I should have added that I use either live images or full install images to keep installation time down.
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Re: Virtualbox installation

Postby eor2004 » 2019-01-31 23:43

@ Chrisdb: Hi, I just followed the instructions from here: https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox#Debian_9_.22Stretch.22 and I was able to install Virtualbox for debian stretch, just follow the instructions for your debian version, hope this helps, good luck!
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Re: Virtualbox installation

Postby stevepusser » 2019-02-01 03:53

eor2004 wrote:@ Chrisdb: Hi, I just followed the instructions from here: https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox#Debian_9_.22Stretch.22 and I was able to install Virtualbox for debian stretch, just follow the instructions for your debian version, hope this helps, good luck!


You have it a bit mixed up, the OP is installing a Debian guest in Virtual Box running on Arch...
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Re: Virtualbox installation

Postby eor2004 » 2019-02-01 20:55

Oh, Ok sorry, my bad. :P
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Re: Virtualbox installation

Postby _nobody_ » 2019-02-25 19:24

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:I can't answer your question directly but I would advise against using VirtualBox, both in general (it's shit) and specifically for Debian stretch (it's so shit that the Debian developers removed it just before the release: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=virtualbox&searchon=names&suite=stable&section=all) — try QEMU/KVM instead.


:shock: Wrong, Head! I (present time) install with VBox VMM Debian Buster VM using my proprietary pre-seeded scripts for circa 20 minutes (on my tiny duo-core notebook). All this goes seamlessly (in the meantime I do other stuff, or rest watching TV)!

Hey, Head... You just have to understand. And you do NOT (small head on the stick)! :lol:

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Re: Virtualbox installation

Postby sunrat » 2019-02-25 21:52

He's not wrong about KVM/QEMU being better than VBox. Try it before casting aspersions. The virt-manager GUI makes it fairly simple.
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Re: Virtualbox installation

Postby GarryRicketson » 2019-02-26 01:16

As a ex Virtualbox user, I must agree with H_O_A_S, and Sunrat,... For years I had been using VirtualBox, and never all that happy with it, used it with Debian 6, and 7, then when I switched to a non systemd OS, Virtualbox was not available in their packages, but QEMU and KVM were, well, to make a long story short, I am so impressed with QEMU, I will/would never go back to Virtualbox, even if it was available in the packages,...
by Chrisdb »Also, how long does an installation of 'Stretch' normally take ?

If it is with a netinstall ISO, for me that is impossible as well, my ISP is to slow, and it takes forever, or never completes, But I downloaded a CD live image, but no Gnome, XFCE instead, ( I had to use a internet cafe in the city to do that), any way it took about the same 15 min, maybe less, to install to a QEMU VM, Gnome is a extremely bloated DE, so I suppose it might take a little longer, .... I would at least try QEMU, before bashing it, the OP might be surprised at the differences, not sure that it would make any difference on the install time for the Debian guest or not, we would need to see some hardware specs on the host system, also, if it is a netinstall, and the OP does not have a very good ISP, that could be why it is so slow. I am tempted to say some other things, but don't want to be rude or a troll.
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Re: Virtualbox installation

Postby stevepusser » 2019-02-26 01:28

GarryRicketson wrote:..., then when I switched to a non systemd OS, Virtualbox was not available in their packages, ...


Just to be clear, VBox does not require systemd.
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Re: Virtualbox installation

Postby GarryRicketson » 2019-02-26 01:40

I did not say it did, but, maybe my grammar is bad or something, the point being that the other OS does not have VB available in it's packages, so I used QEMU because that is what they did have, and I am glad it happened, I might not have ever tried qemu if it had not been for the fact that it was not available . The OS I switched to is a non systemd OS, but no where did I say it needs or requires systemd,... Why are you trying to make it sound like I said something that I didn't ?
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