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by **JeSuisFlaneur** » 2020-05-10 18:09

I tried updating. The upgrade fails due to it trying to install LibreOffice. I use OpenOffice. How do I update, without LibreOffice. There is a kernel update being held back due to this. Why would the upgrade care so much as to not update the kernel, because of LibreOffice?

Installing OpenOffice is not easy in Debian/Ubuntu. I had to do a complex series of commands to force LibreOffice off this computer.

Also in Notifications is a Thunderbird update. I do want to install it.

Is it possible to remove the LibreOffice from the repository, so that I don't have any more offers of updates?

by **Head_on_a_Stick** » 2020-05-10 18:39

JeSuisFlaneur wrote:The upgrade fails due to it trying to install LibreOffice

That a bit vague, can we see the full output of

Code: Select all: apt -s upgrade apt policy

JeSuisFlaneur wrote:I had to do a complex series of commands to force LibreOffice off this computer.

Again, that's far too vague. We need to know *exactly* what you did.

by **JeSuisFlaneur** » 2020-05-10 19:15

When I try to understand how to respond to the vagueness problem, I must first apologize for not being adept at computers. If I knew enough to be more clear, I would not withhold a jot or tittle.

This morning, on powering up the computer, an on-screen notification appeared about updates. When I looked at the updates available, I saw the entire LibreOffice suite was ready for installation (which would technically be an upgrade from an earlier LO version).

About a year ago, I installed Debian 10 on a bare SSD drive. The Buster installer added, LibreOffice. After some time, I found an article on uninstalling LO and installing Apache OpenOffice. I followed all those instructions. I have a working OpenOffice on this system. There is a directory, that LO and OO fight over, called soffice. I don't know what is in it, that is, I don't know why there is one directory with the same name from both software packagers. LibreOffice cannot be easily removed. If needs be I'll find the posts I followed, but it's over a year ago.

As for the output you request:

Code: Select all: mark@Lexington:/$ apt -s upgrade NOTE: This is only a simulation! apt needs root privileges for real execution. Keep also in mind that locking is deactivated, so don't depend on the relevance to the real current situation! Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: libreoffice-help-ca : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-common : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-cs : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-da : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-de : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-dz : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-el : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-en-gb : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-en-us : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-es : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-et : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-eu : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-fi : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-fr : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-gl : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-hi : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-hu : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-it : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-ja : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-km : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-ko : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-nl : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-pl : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-pt : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-ru : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-sk : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-sl : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-sv : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-zh-cn : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-help-zh-tw : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-ar : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed Recommends: fonts-hosny-amiri but it is not installed Recommends: fonts-hosny-thabit but it is not installed Recommends: fonts-kacst but it is not installed Recommends: fonts-sil-scheherazade but it is not installed libreoffice-l10n-ast : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-be : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-bg : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-bn : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed Recommends: fonts-beng but it is not installed libreoffice-l10n-bs : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-ca : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-cs : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-cy : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-da : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-de : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-dz : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed Recommends: fonts-dzongkha but it is not installed libreoffice-l10n-el : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-en-gb : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-en-za : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-eo : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-es : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-et : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-eu : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-fa : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed Recommends: fonts-farsiweb but it is not installed libreoffice-l10n-fi : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-fr : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-ga : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-gl : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-gu : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed Recommends: fonts-gujr but it is not installed libreoffice-l10n-he : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-hi : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-hr : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-hu : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-id : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-is : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-it : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-ja : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-ka : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-km : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed Recommends: fonts-khmeros but it is not installed libreoffice-l10n-ko : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-lt : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-lv : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-mk : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-ml : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed Recommends: fonts-mlym but it is not installed libreoffice-l10n-mr : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed Recommends: fonts-deva but it is not installed libreoffice-l10n-nb : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-ne : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed Recommends: fonts-deva but it is not installed libreoffice-l10n-nl : Depends: libreoffice-common (= 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u6) but 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 is installed libreoffice-l10n-nn : Depends: libreoffice-common (= mark@Lexington:/$ apt -s upgrade mark@Lexington:/$ apt policy Package files: 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status release a=now 500 https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable/main amd64 Packages release o=ms-teams stable,a=stable,n=stable,l=ms-teams stable,c=main,b=amd64 origin packages.microsoft.com 500 https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable stable/non-free amd64 Packages release o=Opera Software AS,a=stable,n=stable,l=The Opera web browser,c=non-free,b=amd64 origin deb.opera.com 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian buster/contrib amd64 Packages release v=10.4,o=Debian,a=stable,n=buster,l=Debian,c=contrib,b=amd64 origin ftp.us.debian.org 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages release v=10.4,o=Debian,a=stable,n=buster,l=Debian,c=main,b=amd64 origin ftp.us.debian.org 500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates/non-free amd64 Packages release v=10,o=Debian,a=stable,n=buster,l=Debian-Security,c=non-free,b=amd64 origin security.debian.org 500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates/main amd64 Packages release v=10,o=Debian,a=stable,n=buster,l=Debian-Security,c=main,b=amd64 origin security.debian.org 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates/main amd64 Packages release o=Debian,a=stable-updates,n=buster-updates,l=Debian,c=main,b=amd64 origin deb.debian.org 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages release v=10.4,o=Debian,a=stable,n=buster,l=Debian,c=main,b=amd64 origin deb.debian.org 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/non-free amd64 Packages release v=10.4,o=Debian,a=stable,n=buster,l=Debian,c=non-free,b=amd64 origin deb.debian.org Pinned packages: mark@Lexington:/$

by **cuckooflew** » 2020-05-10 19:15

Is it possible to remove the LibreOffice from the repository, so that I don't have any more offers of updates?

No we will not remove it from the repositories, there are many others that do want it.

How do I update, without LibreOffice

What you can do is remove the package from your system, there is documentation on how to do this,: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/pkgtools.en.html

8.1.2. APT
To remove the foo package from your system, run: -----snip---To remove the foo package and its configuration files from your system, run: ---snip---and so on,

Read it, I can not do that for you. I used the same instructions my self, in fact it was to remove libre office as well, pretty simple if you know how to follow instructions,...
Also:
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPackageManagement
So, that is all there is to it, just remove the libre office package from you system, before trying to update or upgrade.
and there is even more information, but you did not bother to even try to find any of it , did you ?
Please Read.. What we expect you have already Done.

by **cuckooflew** » 2020-05-10 22:00

Additional note, after you have run 'apt remove libreoffice' and 'apt purge libreoffice' There may still be some debri left over, you can follow this guide:
https://dwaves.org/2016/10/06/linux-debian-uninstall-libreoffice/
It tells you about a easy way to find and remove any leftover traces.

# keep copy pasting that into your console until it keeps saying:

E: Unable to locate package

by **arid** » 2020-05-11 02:53

It tells you about a easy way to find and remove any leftover traces.

That is beyond absurd!

Or you can install deborphan(orphaner) and list and remove any and all leftovers.

I also use synaptic for any and all package management.

Oh, the horror of it all!

Puzzling to me how in all these years, I've never had any non-functioning systems.

I have also removed libreoffice on dozens of installs without a problem.

Of course if you want to live in the stone-age with that ancient stable stuff...

by **cuckooflew** » 2020-05-11 03:26

In any event, the main point is, there are various ways to install and remove the packages

I also use synaptic for any and all package management.

,
https://packages.debian.org/buster/synaptic
That's nice, I never have used it myself, maybe should try it some time, I did not know it is suitable for doing upgrades though, is it really ? I see the info says it can be used for package upgrades, but what about full upgrades, or dist - upgrade, like from Debian 9 to Debian 10 ?

Or you can install deborphan

Can't say I had heard of it,..but here it is (for the OP and anyone else):
https://packages.debian.org/buster/deborphan

Package: deborphan (1.7.31)
program that can find unused packages, e.g. libraries

deborphan finds "orphaned" packages on your system. It determines which packages have no other packages depending on their installation and shows you a list of these packages. It is most useful when finding libraries, but it can be used on packages in all sections.

This package also includes orphaner, a text menu frontend to deborphan. Please install the recommended packages dialog, gettext-base and apt when you want a working and fully featured orphaner.

Sounds good, another one I will try some time,.
Thanks for sharing.

by **Head_on_a_Stick** » 2020-05-11 15:23

JeSuisFlaneur wrote:I must first apologize for not being adept at computers. If I knew enough to be more clear, I would not withhold a jot or tittle.

Don't be silly, no need to apologise, it's fine.

JeSuisFlaneur wrote:LibreOffice cannot be easily removed.

Why not? What happens when you try?

JeSuisFlaneur wrote:
Code: Select all
You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these.

^ Have you tried that?

It looks like you still have the LO help & localisation ("l10n") packages installed, can you remove them?

Code: Select all: apt purge --simulate --autoremove 'libreoffice*'

by **JeSuisFlaneur** » 2020-05-11 20:05

The next day . . .

On screen notification wanted to install updates. No LibreOffice, this time it was the OS and Thunderbird.

I OK'd the update. On reboot, the OS fails. Cannot run OS or the rescue. Both run to a blank screen and halt.

I'm reinstalling the OS. That's another post from here.

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