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Fails to boot after installation

Postby NickC » 2012-02-15 10:27

Hi All,

My first install of Debian so forgive me if I miss something obvious.

Just installed Debian Squeeze using graphical install, standard options. Problem is after installation the system won't boot, just gets to a certain point and drops the monitor output and appears to lock-up. I have tried recovery mode, messages scroll past the screen but I can't see what the last line was before it failed.

The only 'non-free' driver required was for the NICs: rtl_nic/rtl8168-2.fw which I obtained from firmware-realtek_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb.

Just incase it give us any clues the basic hardware is:
AMD Phenom X6
NVidia Quadro NVS 295

How can I trace the cause of this?

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Re: Fails to boot after installation

Postby ZACHARiAS » 2012-02-15 10:29

please do tell us:
a) Version of debian
b) more hardware spec: i.e. if its a laptop, desktop, etc.
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Re: Fails to boot after installation

Postby NickC » 2012-02-15 10:57

Version: debian-6.0.4-amd64-DVD-1.iso

Hardware:
MoBo: Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD5
CPU: Phenom II X6, 2.8GHz, 9.0Mb total cache
RAM: 2 x 4Gb DDR3, 1600Mhz
HDD: 2 x SATA, 500Gb & 1Tb
Floppy - Sony MPF920
Graphics: nVidia Quadro NVS295
DVD - Pioneer DVD106S/2 (region free)
DVD Writer: Lite-on LH-20A1S11C
SCSI: Adaptec ASC29320A
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Re: Fails to boot after installation

Postby NickC » 2012-02-15 11:14

Don't know if relevent but been poking about and found Graphical rescue mode. Booted that and went to Interactive shell on /dev/sdb5.
Here is the last bit of output from dmesg:
device-mapper: ioctl: 4.15.0-ioctl (2009-04-01) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com
__ratelimit: 86 callbacks supporessed
FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!
EXT2-fs: sdb5: couldn't mount because of unsupported features (4).
kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS on sdb5, internal journal
EXT3-fs: recovery complete
EXT3-fs: mounted filesyatem with ordered data mode


Are any of these relevent?
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Re: Fails to boot after installation

Postby ZACHARiAS » 2012-02-15 11:53

NickC wrote:Don't know if relevent but been poking about and found Graphical rescue mode. Booted that and went to Interactive shell on /dev/sdb5.
Here is the last bit of output from dmesg:
device-mapper: ioctl: 4.15.0-ioctl (2009-04-01) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com
__ratelimit: 86 callbacks supporessed
FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!
EXT2-fs: sdb5: couldn't mount because of unsupported features (4).
kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS on sdb5, internal journal
EXT3-fs: recovery complete
EXT3-fs: mounted filesyatem with ordered data mode


Are any of these relevent?

maybe its the kernel. try to run debian wheezy, see how it goes.
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Re: Fails to boot after installation

Postby NickC » 2012-02-15 12:40

Hmm.. that means downloading the whole DVD again which means geting that jigdo thing to work again. When I tried earlier to use jigdo to update my .iso image, just to test it, it failed with:
error while reading file debian-6.0.4-amd64-DVD-1.iso, file will be ignored (no such file or directory) - but it certainly is present!

Anyone know if it is possible to get jigdo to just download the changes between debian-6.0.4-amd64-DVD-1.iso and debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.jigdo, does that sound possible? That is assuming I find out how to get jigdo update working.
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Re: Fails to boot after installation

Postby ZACHARiAS » 2012-02-15 15:04

NickC wrote:Hmm.. that means downloading the whole DVD again which means geting that jigdo thing to work again. When I tried earlier to use jigdo to update my .iso image, just to test it, it failed with:
error while reading file debian-6.0.4-amd64-DVD-1.iso, file will be ignored (no such file or directory) - but it certainly is present!

Anyone know if it is possible to get jigdo to just download the changes between debian-6.0.4-amd64-DVD-1.iso and debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.jigdo, does that sound possible? That is assuming I find out how to get jigdo update working.

i always use netinstall or business card mate.
im sorry i cant help you more. my debian knowledge isnt dat good yet.
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Re: Fails to boot after installation

Postby NickC » 2012-02-16 17:05

Completely fresh install of wheezy now completed. But won't even try to boot due to a GRUB error! Is there some way to reinstall the GRUB bootloader only, I don't thing I have the energy to go through another four hour install again.

I have booted from Knoppix and established that I have the following partitions:

/dev/sda1 - ntfs
/dev/sda2 - ntfs
/dev/sda3 - extended
/dev/sda5 - ntfs
/dev/sda6 - ntfs
/dev/sda7 - ntfs

/dev/sdb1 - ntfs
/dev/sdb2 - extended
/dev/sdb5 - ext3, boot
/dev/sdb6 - linux-swap
/dev/sdb7 - root?

What do I need to do to install GRUB to /dev/sdb5?

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Re: Fails to boot after installation

Postby kiyop » 2012-02-16 23:45

NickC wrote:Completely fresh install of wheezy now completed. But won't even try to boot due to a GRUB error!

What error message is shown?

NickC wrote: Is there some way to reinstall the GRUB bootloader only,

There are many ways.
The shortest way may be to use Super Grub2 Disk.
http://www.supergrubdisk.org/

NickC wrote:I have booted from Knoppix and established that I have the following partitions:

/dev/sda1 - ntfs
/dev/sda2 - ntfs
/dev/sda3 - extended
/dev/sda5 - ntfs
/dev/sda6 - ntfs
/dev/sda7 - ntfs

/dev/sdb1 - ntfs
/dev/sdb2 - extended
/dev/sdb5 - ext3, boot
/dev/sdb6 - linux-swap
/dev/sdb7 - root?

What do I need to do to install GRUB to /dev/sdb5?

If you install Grub2 code onto the partition boot record of /dev/sdb5, you may be unable to boot Grub2 directly.
First, BIOS try to find the bootable device (usually, MBR of /dev/sda, /dev/sdb). The order can be set by BIOS configuration.
You should configure so that partition boot record of /dev/sdb5 is chainloaded.

Instead, you can install grub2 code onto MBR of /dev/sdb or /dev/sda. It is simpler for especially a newbie.
But be careful! You do not mention about the OS's installed on your two hard disks.
If /dev/sdb contains some boot loader, installing grub2 code onto the MBR of your second hard disk (/dev/sdb) destroy the boot loader in the MBR.

I do not know about Knoppix. You do not mention version of Knoppix.
Maybe you can install grub2 code by using your knoppix, though I am not sure.

If you cannot solve the problem by yourself, execute boot info script while knoppix is booting, and post the contents of the generated RESULTS.txt.
boot info script:
http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
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Re: Fails to boot after installation

Postby ZACHARiAS » 2012-02-16 23:48

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Re: Fails to boot after installation

Postby kiyop » 2012-02-16 23:54

ZACHARiAS wrote:try this:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=75356&p=418153#p418097
kudos

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=75356&p=418153#p418097
ZACHARiAS wrote:do a clean install of debian.
after that if XP is not visible on grub try this:
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1)  # sudo apt-get install os-prober

2)  # sudo gedit /etc/default/grub

3) add the following line after # GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
 # GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false

4)  # sudo update-grub2



How can he run "sudo apt-get install os-prober" or so when he cannot boot debian installed on his hard disk? :?:
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Re: Fails to boot after installation

Postby nadir » 2012-02-17 00:22

kiyop wrote:How can he run "sudo apt-get install os-prober" or so when he cannot boot debian installed on his hard disk? :?:

live-CD and chroot
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Re: Fails to boot after installation

Postby ZACHARiAS » 2012-02-17 01:47

kiyop wrote:
ZACHARiAS wrote:try this:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=75356&p=418153#p418097
kudos

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=75356&p=418153#p418097
ZACHARiAS wrote:do a clean install of debian.
after that if XP is not visible on grub try this:
Code: Select all
1)  # sudo apt-get install os-prober

2)  # sudo gedit /etc/default/grub

3) add the following line after # GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
 # GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false

4)  # sudo update-grub2



How can he run "sudo apt-get install os-prober" or so when he cannot boot debian installed on his hard disk? :?:

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Re: Fails to boot after installation

Postby kiyop » 2012-02-17 03:45

nadir wrote:
kiyop wrote:How can he run "sudo apt-get install os-prober" or so when he cannot boot debian installed on his hard disk? :?:

live-CD and chroot

I know. But it may be difficult for NickC.
Furthermore, in live cd circumstance, the following command should be modified properly.
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=75356&p=418153#p418097
ZACHARiAS wrote:do a clean install of debian.
after that if XP is not visible on grub try this:
Code: Select all
1)  # sudo apt-get install os-prober

2)  # sudo gedit /etc/default/grub

3) add the following line after # GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
 # GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false

4)  # sudo update-grub2


I think Super Grub2 Disk is easier, and getting information on his problem is 1st thing to do.

nomodeset or some kernel option relating to graphics or acpi=off or so may solve his problem.
Furthermore, I am not sure he has a debian live cd. I remember he hesitated to download iso.
NickC wrote:Hmm.. that means downloading the whole DVD again which means geting that jigdo thing to work again. When I tried earlier to use jigdo to update my .iso image, just to test it, it failed with:
error while reading file debian-6.0.4-amd64-DVD-1.iso, file will be ignored (no such file or directory) - but it certainly is present!

Anyone know if it is possible to get jigdo to just download the changes between debian-6.0.4-amd64-DVD-1.iso and debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.jigdo, does that sound possible? That is assuming I find out how to get jigdo update working.

But I am not sure if he has live CD/DVD.

To NickC,

Do you have any live-debian CD, DVD or USB?
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/
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Re: Fails to boot after installation

Postby nadir » 2012-02-17 16:42

kiyop wrote:Furthermore, I am not sure he has a debian live cd. I remember he hesitated to download iso.

He probably hasn't got a super-grub-CD neither.
Any Debian based distro will do, and if one hasn't got one, one should download one as soon as possible (which is now, not later, but now).
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