Discussion for General Resolution on Debian's init system

[golinux]

Voting for 2 (doesn't want to work from my phone will try again later).
(edit: still won't work - "the submtted form is invalid" ... ? )

Were you able to resolve this, yet? It is concerning if you are unable to vote and if there is something that needs to be done by me to address this, please let me know.

I had to change themes in order to vote properly.

[anticapitalista]

Voting for 2 (doesn't want to work from my phone will try again later).
(edit: still won't work - "the submtted form is invalid" ... ? )

Were you able to resolve this, yet? It is concerning if you are unable to vote and if there is something that needs to be done by me to address this, please let me know.

I had to change themes in order to vote properly.

More RedHat shenanigans?

[fleabus]

[golinux]

Were you able to resolve this, yet? It is concerning if you are unable to vote and if there is something that needs to be done by me to address this, please let me know.

I had to change themes in order to vote properly.

More RedHat shenanigans?

Nah. This happened to me on Squeeze still on Iceweasel 10 something. Some of the forum templates are a little funky. Code probably not up to date with the latest phpBB or web standards . . .

[dilberts_left_nut]

Cheers golinux - changed theme to prosilver and vote went through.
(Was redsilver3).

[golinux]

Cheers golinux - changed theme to prosilver and vote went through.
(Was redsilver3).

Yup. redsilver3 was the one that hung me up too.

[steve_v]

While I have no real objection to systemd _as an init system_, shoving so much not-realy-inits-job code into PID1 makes me profoundly uncomfortable.
Not being able to run a full DE without this way-more-than-just-init monstrosity in PID1 (or recompiling half the distro) makes me profoundly annoyed.
Slackware is where I began, if this carries on I may well return there. FreeBSD is also looking pretty tasty right now...
Have a wild guess which way I voted

[anticapitalista]

Yup. redsilver3 was the one that hung me up too.

But, was redsilver3 written by Poettering?

[saulgoode]

I made a mistake in my initial post of this thread in stating that the requisite discussion period for the General Resolution had not started. I took the "TBC" status for the discussion to mean that it was yet "to be confirmed" or somesuch, and that the page would be updated once the official discussion period commenced.

But recent postings on the debian-vote mailing list suggest that the discussion period either 1) is now completed or 2) has only a day or two remaining. In either case, it is recommended that those wishing to voice their opinions on the issue do so without delay.

I apologize for the misunderstanding.

[saulgoode]

I posted my two cents to the mailing list.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/20 ... 00019.html

[s2pido]

With only one day remaining in the voting period, fewer than 500 (of the 1000+ DDs) have bothered to vote?
https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/gr_initcoupling/

Is such a low participation percentage typical?

[saulgoode]

With only one day remaining in the voting period, ...

The voting period extends until the end of Tuesday, November 18th (UTC). https://www.debian.org/vote/2014/vote_003

... fewer than 500 (of the 1000+ DDs) have bothered to vote?
https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/gr_initcoupling/

Is such a low participation percentage typical?

I was thinking it was progressing rather well, given there are still about five days left. It is, at a minimum, nice to see that the issue won't just be decided by a handful of advocates (regardless of their position).

[fruitofloom]

... fewer than 500 (of the 1000+ DDs) have bothered to vote?
https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/gr_initcoupling/

Is such a low participation percentage typical?

I was thinking it was progressing rather well, given there are still about five days left. It is, at a minimum, nice to see that the issue won't just be decided by a handful of advocates (regardless of their position).

You mean like in most other distributions, say Slackware, huh?
Kidding aside this sure is way better
(I like the joke, but it is really just that: a joke. Perhaps a stupid one).

Still convinced the very best is to vote with the feet to put some pressure on Debian, to show that *that* is not what one has in mind when thinking of Debian. That will make them think, and only that (replacing systemd with sysv and pinning *systemd* including the libs *and* installing popularity-contest is another option, less strong and way too much work, imho).