OK, I meant the Linux versions of those programs, if you need that clarified.Bulkley wrote:Really? Since most computer users run Windows, Apple or various hand-helds that looks to be self defeating.stevepusser wrote:Pretty much all the commercial VPNs you can install depend on systemd running, as well a lot of other third party programs like Plex.
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Init diversity in buster and beyond
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That is amazing news, thanks for the heads-up.golinux wrote:Debian sid without systemd
No, they only depend on systemd unit files to start the services.stevepusser wrote:Pretty much all the commercial VPNs you can install depend on systemd running
Those unit files can be translated to sysvinit scripts to allow them to work without systemd, here's an example:
https://github.com/MX-Linux/piavpn-sysvinit-compat
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And now this awesome report . . . gnome isn't exactly awesome but the fact that's it's working without systemd is quite an accomplishment. I hope this patch gets pushed up to Debian. Maybe it already has:
Thank you to whoever got Gnome desktop running [on Devuan].
Would be interesting to know if it's possible to run gnome on Debian/sysvinit with elogind. If anyone's feeling adventurous, maybe give it a try . . .
Thank you to whoever got Gnome desktop running [on Devuan].
Would be interesting to know if it's possible to run gnome on Debian/sysvinit with elogind. If anyone's feeling adventurous, maybe give it a try . . .
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No, it is not.golinux wrote:Would be interesting to know if it's possible to run gnome on Debian/sysvinit with elogind
I'm running GNOME in buster at the moment:
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shinken:~$ apt-get install -s sysvinit-core elogind
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
policykit-1 : Depends: libpam-systemd but it is not going to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
shinken:~100$
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Breaking News: VOID – S6 – Obarun’s 66 – musl
systemd-free linux community
There's probably a snag somewhere but it's good to know people are working on it.If there was a war front against systemd and the axis powers, Void and Obarun seem to have crossed deep into enemy lines.
Full marks go to the developers at Devuan, MX, Antix, and a host of other projects that keep hacking away at this.
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Ahem, You left out the grandfather Slackware and the smaller cousin Gentoo, I don't think including them in "host of other projects..." does them any justice.Bulkley wrote:Breaking News: VOID – S6 – Obarun’s 66 – musl
systemd-free linux community
There's probably a snag somewhere but it's good to know people are working on it.If there was a war front against systemd and the axis powers, Void and Obarun seem to have crossed deep into enemy lines.
Full marks go to the developers at Devuan, MX, Antix, and a host of other projects that keep hacking away at this.
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Agreed.HuangLao wrote:Ahem, You left out the grandfather Slackware and the smaller cousin Gentoo, I don't think including them in "host of other projects..." does them any justice.