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******KEEP GTK1!!!!!!******

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Should Debian keep GTK1 for Lenny?

Yes, long live GTK1!
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No, get rid of that "thing"!
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65%
 
Total votes: 40

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oswaldkelso
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Re: ******KEEP GTK1!!!!!!******

#21 Post by oswaldkelso »

Isn't that the point of a toolkit -- to provide cosmetic fripperies?

Or am I missing something?

Probably the latter as I use DWM...
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I had the misfortune to try an Elementary OS install. Like Gnome last time I tried it, it was like swimming in treacle. Offering very little more than a slick theme at the expense of a lot more bloat and memory consumption. I would say the same about QT. In a Moore's law kind of way designers expect computers to have more resources they design interfaces that need more resources. In short pretty, slow and no easier to use than what had existed before.

I run windows maximized most of the time so how pretty the interface is while important to me is not the be all and end all, the interface does not exist to look at in the way most users think or are used to.

I use fittstool http://code.google.com/p/fittstool/ To launch my commonly used applications I just point the mouse and click and things happen. Point and scroll the mouse wheel and the volume changes.

http://oswaldkelso.blogspot.co.uk/2015/ ... paper.html

It takes a little learning but it's a pleasure to use and so much easier than pointing and clicking on a small panel or menu icon or using a run dialog. Though I still have both. A panel to show running applications and save me using ALT-TAB, and a hidden fbpanel for a dynamic menu for less used items. Just because I'm lazy 8)
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Re: ******KEEP GTK1!!!!!!******

#22 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

oswaldkelso wrote:I use fittstool http://code.google.com/p/fittstool/ To launch my commonly used applications I just point the mouse and click and things happen. Point and scroll the mouse wheel and the volume changes.

http://oswaldkelso.blogspot.co.uk/2015/ ... paper.html
That is bloody lovely -- thanks for sharing!
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Re: ******KEEP GTK1!!!!!!******

#23 Post by edbarx »

stevepusser wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:What the hell is GTK1?
:P
It was the first edition of GTK, obviously. Horrible looking by today's standards. It's like shouting out on a Windows forum "Bring back 3.1!"
I think, Windows 3.1 had better looking widgets compared to GTK1. Considering GTK1 graphics they look more like a pre-alpha release rather than a finished product.
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Re: ******KEEP GTK1!!!!!!******

#24 Post by thanatos_incarnate »

edbarx wrote:
stevepusser wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:What the hell is GTK1?
:P
It was the first edition of GTK, obviously. Horrible looking by today's standards. It's like shouting out on a Windows forum "Bring back 3.1!"
I think, Windows 3.1 had better looking widgets compared to GTK1. Considering GTK1 graphics they look more like a pre-alpha release rather than a finished product.
I think you haven't been around long enough in the Linux world. GTK1 was a much more modern toolkit than that of Win 3.11 -- in fact, I found it better looking than my Windows 98 standard theme when I moved over to Linux. It was very stable and also had at the time a very good theming engine. Disregarding the relatively poor font hinting, the rest of the visuals were en par with other modern UIs of the time.

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Re: ******KEEP GTK1!!!!!!******

#25 Post by slackguy »

i was just toying with making a small gnome-1.4 release (that's not yet finished) that works on "today's build system" for compatibility

the following has what you need to know to get gtk-1 working (and it's examples or gtk-demo working). it's success is based on squeeze though, so anything "too new" might need a slight work-around

http://sourceforge.net/p/x-lfs-2010/

however! as i found out, some of gtk assumes that parts of gnome are working (most especially, icon support). but some applications can and do work w/o any gnome

* i say that, but i'm a few years behind, but really things shouldn't be breaking it shoudln't matter

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Re: ******KEEP GTK1!!!!!!******

#26 Post by spacex »

OMG, once again the Debian community has made my day :lol:

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