Will Lenny release without NVIDIA?

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Postby Gomer_X » 2008-08-06 17:39

AdrianTM wrote:Would that be true for Sid kernels too? I haven't had this problem. In the list of packages I see that Xen enabled kernels
have "xen" in their name, maybe you got the wrong kernel.

See above. One of the solutions is to use packages from Sid, which doesn't have this problem.

All 2.6.25 kernels in Lenny are Xen enabled. Pick any nvidia thread for the details. It's been discussed.

The best solution seems to be to avoid the nvidia proprietary drivers. It is the path I've chosen.

In other news, Intel will be manufacturing graphics chips for use in discrete graphics cards starting 2009 or 2010.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10005391-64.html
I'll be standing in that line when the time comes. :)
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Postby AdrianTM » 2008-08-06 17:42

All 2.6.25 kernels in Lenny are Xen enabled.

Debian should release kernels that are not xen enabled. Period.
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Postby Gomer_X » 2008-08-06 17:50

AdrianTM wrote:
All 2.6.25 kernels in Lenny are Xen enabled.

Debian should release kernels that are not xen enabled. Period.

Feel free to notify the responsible parties of your opinion. :)

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Postby actionM » 2008-08-06 22:22

AdrianTM wrote:What is the problem can't you install the driver from there: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

Is really not that hard...
1. you need kernel headers installed and linked to /usr/src/linux
2. stop the X
3. run installer.

That's pretty much it.


Have you used Lenny lately you ignorant bastard?
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Postby AdrianTM » 2008-08-06 22:25

actionM wrote:Have you used Lenny lately you ignorant bastard?

No, you analphabet. I'm a Sid user, and thus I have the privilege of having non-xen kernels (if I decide to use stock kernel that is)
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Postby actionM » 2008-08-06 22:27

LOL, ummm speaking of ignorance. Can I just compile my kernel in Lenny to not use Xen?
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Postby AdrianTM » 2008-08-06 22:29

actionM wrote:LOL, ummm speaking of ignorance. Can I just compile my kernel in Lenny to not use Xen?

I don't see what can stop you.
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Postby infinitycircuit » 2008-08-06 23:06

It seems like they will make it in:

http://www.khensu.org/index.php?catid=3&blogid=1
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Postby s3a » 2008-08-11 06:31

do those exist in PCI express (I would really rather not have much graphics card hobbled by PCI and most current boards don't have AGP).

ATI RADEON X600 PRO

It is cheap. It is PCI-Express. It can handle games about the generation of Doom 3. The open source driver has good 2D and 3D support for it (or so I've read).
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Postby hkoster1 » 2008-08-13 16:31

It seems that the latest nvidia source package has now landed in testing/Lenny, so there's a good chance that it will also be released when Lenny goes stable. It compiled fine against the 2.6.26 kernel in Sid.
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Postby rickh » 2008-08-13 17:05

It seems that the latest nvidia source package has now landed in testing/Lenny,

Are you sure about that?
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Postby hkoster1 » 2008-08-13 19:37

rickh wrote:
It seems that the latest nvidia source package has now landed in testing/Lenny,

Are you sure about that?
You're right... :oops: Reinstalled Lenny/Sid on newly-built desktop and on my laptop this past weekend (both use Nvidia graphics), but only installed Nvidia (from Sid) on the desktop so far... Ran
Code: Select all
apt-show-versions |grep unstable
on the laptop, and came to the wrong conclusion; will now install Nvidia (the Debian way, of course) on my laptop the moment I've posted this. Sorry for the false alarm.
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Postby BioTube » 2008-08-13 23:03

The guy who compiles the kernel for Lenny's developed a Xen fetish.
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Postby bartos » 2008-09-04 17:04

AdrianTM wrote:What is the problem can't you install the driver from there: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

Is really not that hard...
1. you need kernel headers installed and linked to /usr/src/linux
2. stop the X
3. run installer.

That's pretty much it.


I did a net install of beta 2 on Sept 3 the above worked for me also with a PNY 8600 GTS.
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Postby mystery dance » 2008-09-05 23:25

I prefer to do things "The Debian Way" and I prefer to have an unmixed system.... so I'm hoping there will be Nvidia drivers available in Lenny when it finally goes stable. I did a clean install of Lenny on a spare machine and I'm only gettting 800x600 with a Geforce 440. This does not make me happy.

Please don't tell me to change video cards. I have multiple computers with Nvidia cards in them.

I could move to Ubuntu... but Debian is cleaner. I guess I'll just have to wait and see.

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