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MeanDean · #16 Post by **MeanDean** » 2008-10-11 14:41

Does McDonalds have a slogan for every product they sell?

And Debian technically only has one product anyway so one slogan should do it.

rickh · #17 Post by **rickh** » 2008-10-11 14:42

P.S. You mean when Confederate forces from Texas sacked Albuquerque and Santa Fe and occupied N.M. until the 1st New Mexican Volunteers stepped in for the over extended Union forces and defended their Union state in a bloody and indecisive engagement dubbed the Gettysburg of the West?

Pah. Bunch of drunk Texans got lost in the mountains and wound up somewhere around Glorieta where we found them and soundly kicked their ass in the direction they wanted to go anyway. That was a NM/Texas thing, unrelated to the Civil War in any meaningful way. NM wasn't even a State for another 50 years.

Mr B · #18 Post by **Mr B** » 2008-10-11 15:41

AdrianTM wrote:Lenny, Ubuntu for snobs.

Wash your mouth out young man!!

Ook · #19 Post by **Ook** » 2008-10-11 18:30

Some nice slogans:

"First at Gettysburg!" "Kit Carson's Own,"

from heros of the Civil War, The 1st New Mexico Volunteer Infantry. Here is a nice shot under the 34-star Stars and Stripes I believe, not to be confused with the Southern Cross.

http://www.1stnmvi.com/

AdrianTM · #20 Post by **AdrianTM** » 2008-10-11 18:32

Debian is an international distro, let's not discuss about petty American issues...

anticapitalista · #21 Post by **anticapitalista** » 2008-10-11 19:21

Civil War hero
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Tubman

that calls for a
Debian slogan of:

"Freedom for all, Debian"

rickh · #22 Post by **rickh** » 2008-10-11 19:32

Although the War of Northern Aggression had little or nothing to do with slavery, I would certainly vote for a Lenny slogan, or even an ongoing Stable Release slogan of "Freedom for All!"

BioTube · #23 Post by **BioTube** » 2008-10-11 23:01

If we're going to take something from that era, let's at least give it a Debian bent: "Sic semper [however you say schedules in Latin]!"

Ook · #24 Post by **Ook** » 2008-10-11 23:15

Bio Tube wrote:"Sic semper [however you say schedules in Latin]!"

Thus always schedules?

rickh wrote:"Freedom for All!"

I can third that motion

BioTube · #25 Post by **BioTube** » 2008-10-11 23:42

Ook wrote:
Bio Tube wrote:"Sic semper [however you say schedules in Latin]!"
Thus always schedules?

It's Latin. The 'to' is implied. Case in point

Caligula wrote:Oderint dum metuant.

That's normally translated to "Let them hate, so long as they fear". Latin's remarkably flexible, unlike the romance languages.

Zero · #26 Post by **Zero** » 2008-10-12 14:48

kabniel wrote: "Ubuntu, I am your father"

LOL

GNU.Wasabi · #27 Post by **GNU.Wasabi** » 2008-10-15 13:26

Don't some of you think that Lenny needs something flippy or better yet groovy? "The Universal Operating System" does indeed tell a lot about Debian and its character, but in my opinion it is just boring. In fact, I find most political topics boring as well unless they have something to do with me. Yes, I would go and strike about something as simple as having food prices drop because I am going to buy food pretty often anyway so why not get my ass up and use my right as a civil? Therefore it would be really good if Debian Lenny would have a "cool" slogan so it will give the image of being more open to new young people and those people are the most important in every project, because they are most likely eager to learn and develop things further. "The Universal Operating System" sounds like a group of men just in their 50s (no offense). But anyway in the end this is just my opinion, so who cares? I do.

Telemachus · #28 Post by **Telemachus** » 2008-10-15 13:53

BioTube wrote:
Ook wrote:
Bio Tube wrote:"Sic semper [however you say schedules in Latin]!"
Thus always schedules?
It's Latin. The 'to' is implied. Case in point
Caligula wrote:Oderint dum metuant.
That's normally translated to "Let them hate, so long as they fear". Latin's remarkably flexible, unlike the romance languages.

<putting on Latin teacher hat>
Huh? There's no "to" implied in "sic semper", which does in fact mean "thus always". In "Sic semper tyrannis" the implied "to" is in the dative "tyrannis". "Oderint dum metuant" is translated "Let them hate, so long as they fear" because that's precisely what it means. There's no flexibility involved. Latin is highly flexible in it's word order - much more so than modern Romance languages or English - but that doesn't amount to a general flexibility of meaning.
<removing Latin teacher hat>

More generally, why is anyone rising to Rickh's bait about the Civil War? He's just looking for attention. Ignore him.

BioTube · #29 Post by **BioTube** » 2008-10-16 00:21

Telemachus wrote:
BioTube wrote:
Ook wrote:Thus always schedules?
It's Latin. The 'to' is implied. Case in point
Caligula wrote:Oderint dum metuant.
That's normally translated to "Let them hate, so long as they fear". Latin's remarkably flexible, unlike the romance languages.
<putting on Latin teacher hat>
Huh? There's no "to" implied in "sic semper", which does in fact mean "thus always". In "Sic semper tyrannis" the implied "to" is in the dative "tyrannis".

I know. It's just simpler to call it implied since few people have any interest in the language.

"Oderint dum metuant" is translated "Let them hate, so long as they fear" because that's precisely what it means. There's no flexibility involved. Latin is highly flexible in it's word order - much more so than modern Romance languages or English - but that doesn't amount to a general flexibility of meaning.
<removing Latin teacher hat>

By "flexible", I WAS referring to the word order(why would you think I was referring to meaning?).

More generally, why is anyone rising to Rickh's bait about the Civil War? He's just looking for attention. Ignore him.

Because it's fun. And Debian really does take the sic semper attitude to release dates.

Telemachus · #30 Post by **Telemachus** » 2008-10-16 00:28

BioTube wrote:
Telemachus wrote:"Oderint dum metuant" is translated "Let them hate, so long as they fear" because that's precisely what it means. There's no flexibility involved. Latin is highly flexible in it's word order - much more so than modern Romance languages or English - but that doesn't amount to a general flexibility of meaning.
<removing Latin teacher hat>
By "flexible", I WAS referring to the word order(why would you think I was referring to meaning?)

I didn't think you meant word order because the word order of "Oderint dum metuant" is exactly the same in Latin as in the equivalent English:

Oderint = Let them hate ("me" implied)
dum = provided that/so long as
metuant = they fear ("me" implied)

So what word order flexibility did you have in mind with that example?

BioTube · #31 Post by **BioTube** » 2008-10-16 00:42

Actually, I was getting at the lack of articles/prepositions/whatever you call them in Latin, due to the word endings.

Telemachus · #32 Post by **Telemachus** » 2008-10-16 11:17

BioTube wrote:Actually, I was getting at the lack of articles/prepositions/whatever you call them in Latin, due to the word endings.

And last post you meant word order. Ok. I think you mean pronouns, btw, since there aren't any missing prepositions or articles.

BioTube · #33 Post by **BioTube** » 2008-10-16 20:39

[Insert more backpedaling here]

cfurlin · #34 Post by **cfurlin** » 2008-11-11 00:03

I'm thinking a quote from "Lenny" Bruce

How about:

"If you can take the hot lead enema, then you can cast the first stone."

Cope57 · #35 Post by **Cope57** » 2008-11-11 06:05