timbgo wrote:
This is who I sent the message Saturday 14:58 CET (which I believe is GMT+2):
That was around August 16 give or take a day. Not looking it up, but from memory and the files available (I keep the publictimestamped files of what I post).
wookey _at_ wookware dot org
tg _at_ debian dot org
alex904633 _at_ mail dot ru
vorlon _at_ debian dot org
jch _at_ pps dot univ-paris-diderot.fr
steve _at_ einval dot com
alessio _at_ debian dot org
stse+debian _at_ fsing dot rootsland.net
preining _at_ logic dot at
And this is what I sent:
http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/gnu/pts/De ... RAPPED.txt
( there are other files in that directory:
http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/gnu/pts/
all starting with "Deb_DD_mail_140816cor", some are signatures, some publictimestamps. The domain is fine, the hosting is great, just if some leviathans, read below on those, start eating small fry and you can't open those, pls., do tell here openly!
...[snip]...
A leviathan, of a smaller kind but to which I am sill just small fry, probably discovered.
At least a clear suspect is there! I am being tragicomical, because it's both sad and comical really. Read on.
However, like I haven't seen in long time, last night and today: no messages, and knowing that some of the above, like Wookey and mirabilos (the first two addresses), the Russian (third address)... and also Juliusz who started the thread, would probably have replied to my message...
Knowing their concern and their views in regard to the matter of this topic, I worry that they may have not received my electronic mail.
Surely some of the above DDs may have been busy to even look up their mailbox. Sure. But how likely is it that all of them have?
Also worth noting, although less likely the case (I am inclined to suspect my mail in question was not sent at all):
Or, if these fine Debian Developers have replied, I worry that they could be led to believe how I might not be serious about the matter.
I have regard for other Debian Developers who I wrote to above, even if I tell some of them off a little sometimes. I actually chose who to write to based on who discussed the matter, not only who I agree with on the matter discussed. I don't talk behind people's back.
And I am earnest about this matter which I wrote to them about.
Pls. dear Debianers, take heed of this necessity of mine:
So I hereby kindly ask the friends and acquantainces of the above developers, who will recognize their email addresses, to call their attention to the message that I sent them, and to the other facts about the strange lack of any emails arriving in my mailbox, almost none from anywhere, for the latest some cca 24 hours.
Thanks in advance!
The following is still standing. It's my slow work, I'm oldish, not fresh like most of you... although I'm getting really tired in getting to make any progress in this no-systemd-Debian-as-option-please matter:
Else, regardless of previously having decided that I wasn't qualified to participate in the discussion on the debian-devel, I will have to try and inform the DD list briefly of this topic "How to avoid stealth installation of systemd?" on this System configuration section on our Debian Forums, that is started by me with the input of hours upon hours long sifting through their discussions in the same-name topic on debian-devel list.
As I said above, a smaller kind of an mail-eating leviathan discovered. The post where you can check on it, and even be provided more solid proofs by me, under circumstances there explained, is the Gentoo topic further below.
That topic is rather marginally dedicated to that mail-eating leviathan, because its eating of mail was discovered by pure chance of the circumstance of the mail perfectly correctly sent by my programs and ready to be perfectly correctly received to be processed at the mail gateway of my hoster of domain CroatiaFidelis.hr, not being let through.
Because this smaller bread of mail-eater leviathan wouldn't let my support question, my one mail to one address through, and that one mail was to the hoster of my domain which I also pay for... that mail-eater, Iskon.hr, a Croatian provider, wouldn't let that mail through in the name of, wait, pause for breath:
spam
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Postfix smtp-tls-wrapper, Bkp/Cloning Mthd, a Zerk Provider
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-999436.html
################################################################
So that kind of provider certainly did not reliably send my mail to the addresses above. Nope!
Pls. dear Debianers, somebody take heed of this necessity of mine, and do the following (I'll give the little sed scriplet here so even less advanced users can more easily help):
Select the code below with a mouse or otherwise.
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#!/bin/bash
echo "wookey _at_ wookware dot org" | sed 's/ _at_ /@/' | sed 's/ dot /./'
echo "tg _at_ debian dot org" | sed 's/ _at_ /@/' | sed 's/ dot /./'
echo "alex904633 _at_ mail dot ru" | sed 's/ _at_ /@/' | sed 's/ dot /./'
echo "vorlon _at_ debian dot org" | sed 's/ _at_ /@/' | sed 's/ dot /./'
echo "jch _at_ pps dot univ-paris-diderot.fr" | sed 's/ _at_ /@/' | sed 's/ dot /./'
echo "steve _at_ einval dot com" | sed 's/ _at_ /@/' | sed 's/ dot /./'
echo "alessio _at_ debian dot org" | sed 's/ _at_ /@/' | sed 's/ dot /./'
echo "stse+debian _at_ fsing dot rootsland.net" | sed 's/ _at_ /@/' | sed 's/ dot /./'
echo "preining _at_ logic dot at" | sed 's/ _at_ /@/' | sed 's/ dot /./'
Next, in a terminal, do:
The command prompt won't be returning. It is awaiting for you input. Now paste
what you have just copied into that terminal.
Next:
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$ chmod 755 real_mail_addresses.sh
And simply run the scriplet:
There you have the addresses to send the topic in which you are reading this here text, which is best to send because it has all the references, and the news how the mail was very probably not really sent by my provider, and without any notice to me the paying customer of theirs as to why it wasn't sent.
Pls. notice that this is only the probable course of events that had taken place back then. The likelihood that it happened so indeed, now that I have caught this completely sick case of censorship, can be said to be pretty high though.
So simply just send to those addresses these two lines, please:
How to avoid stealth installation of systemd?
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 84#p552484
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr
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