goulo wrote:
dbus is indeed installed. Getting rid of it looks like more radical surgery than I have time/energy for at the moment, though I see from some of Miro's posts that it is apparently possible... I have no network-manager-gnome or lightdm.
(Reading as late as slowly I work. Read only now... OK, I have issues on Grsecurity Forums to really engage about... So...)
Yes and no.
I mean it is and it isn't possible.
It is if you terribly reduce the packages needed, and probably compile Firefox, not Iceweasel, because that one can not install without dbus... EDIT: I mean compile with configure; make; make install way
And apt-get nevertheless tells you off for having kept broken packages...
Although the latter (apt-get telling you off for having kept broken packages) was only due to my compiling and installing of MPlayer (and FFmpeg), which otherwise install fine without dbus (they don't need that frankenstein package), but only if you install it from source (EDIT: Again, I mean compile/install with the configure; make; make install way from source) with whatever the name (don't remember, and am late with the promised report on it in that topic --EDIT:
where I posted about that-- as well)... of that debian shell script in the MPlayer source package from mplayerhq.hu IIRC.
But if you install MPlayer with that debian shell script, then you can't disable gui, no way, you just have to compile with the gui, else it won't compile... (I know that much about shell script to simply comment out a few lines and the install went fine, just the apt-get (EDIT: unrelated to that install which was the configure; make; make install way), later, telling me off as I said in previous paragraph.)
But, no, if you un any kind of DE more ocmplex then just openbox, not likely to be able to go without dbus.
Cheers people, and I'm really sad it we are losing dasein (EDIT: he said somewhere that he would leave Debian; hope he reverted on the decision). Sad that Randicus has left (EDIT: hope he will remain too, or come back, but both ways are fine, BSD is fine people, fine systems, FOSS).
I'll cling on, seeing if keithpeter, goulo, edbarx golinux, adenukolnis and others of you (need to rush, so just those I wrote that I remember without any looking up)... if you poeple make some way with no-potteringware-whatsoever or at least so little that will not control us, but which we will be able to contol, along with our systems.
And so sad I am about Egypt. How the general Al Sisi betrayed Morsi who was human, but made sad mistakes, and how Al Sisi's regime went on the slaughter of, how many hundreds were they?, I guess around seven hundreds (that's 700) Muslim Brothers and got not only scot free with the slaughter, but are holding power and Al Sisi speeking these days like he was an honoroble man in the United Nations... How sad! I'll pray for Egypt if I may say, I'm a Catholic, and I love honest Muslims, and Orthodox and all, and plenty in Egypt... dear chaosesqueteam
EDIT: News: lots of progress on:
http://users.unixforge.de/~tglaser/debs/debidx.htm
( to be:
https://people.debian.org/~tg/ )
with packages that might resolve your dependency on systemd and poetteringware in general. Unconfirmed, though, on my part. About to test those packages these hours.
EDIT 2: I have started testing that repo with my sid installed system:
How to Remove Systemd and Related Packages from Your Debian
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=118197