Re: What should we do about systemd?
Posted: 2014-11-18 23:56
Well.. Soon we could all be running Lennux, along with three or four simultaneous malware scanners....
It's only my suspiction, which can be entirely wrong, but I'm going to say a few sentences here:fleabus wrote:Well.. Soon we could all be running Lennux, along with three or four simultaneous malware scanners....
I don't find it funny either, it was my play on words joke that was supposed to be funny. Truth be told, this will turn my world upside down, no more dual SSD fakeraid Raid 0, Brother supplies a printer driver that works in Debian (the CUPS driver sucks, it stopped working properly many kernels ago) and I'll miss the huge repos. I was going to make a modest donation, but sys-choke-d kyboshed that. So now, if I can't get my printer working (properly, not buggy) in Salix, PCLinuxOS or PC-BSD, I'll either have to buy a new Linux compatible printer or be forced back to Windhose (that OS that vacuums money and your rights), I'd rather stick red hot torch heated nails in my eyes before going back to Windhose. The loss of Raid I can deal with, but a printer and good functionality, stability, are a must. Debian can shove spywared up their keester, I won't be a Debdows guinea pig.tomazzi wrote:I can't see anything funny in those links - for me, it's a sign of incoming disaster...Linadian wrote: The ships are leaving the rats, lol.
I hope that wasn't directed at me, I was merely stating the reasons I'll be pissed when I have to chuck all my Debian install disks in the garbage and wipe it off my machine, that's all, I never said Debian should be a preloaded n00b friendly blob or any other such bologna. If it wasn't directed at me, disregard this post. Have you ever installed a CL Brother printer driver? Trust me, few n00bs could pull it off properly or understand the pre-install tasks.s2pido wrote:Yes, printer support kinda sucks. In a corporate workplace, workstation user can (probably usually do) send their documents to networked print servers.
At home, you can chuck CUPS ('cept for the bit apparently needed to support PDF viewing) and print your documents from another PC.
Who sez (not me) that a "proper desktop PC" must have ability to print?
I'm gathering we've (us users who apparently don't mean squat) been thrown to the wolves.mmix wrote:Debian Init System Coupling Vote Results
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=n ... px=MTg0MzY
Well this is too funny, so Poett-hat ripped this idea off? He looks like a used feminine hygiene product.mmix wrote:BTW, i imagine that systemd is result of reinvent wheel of android binder.
http://elinux.org/Android_Binder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBinder
All source code available. Oracle can afford to (and do) pay bright people, and historically that is exactly what they have done.tomazzi wrote:And I think, that with systemd, RedHat is going to "take the leadership" of linux again, by enforcing it's own solution. Since all the systemd developers are paid RedHat employees, then they can take over the service market (in all of the aspects).
Pushing 60 and I have a lot of thoughts that run in that direction these days.keithpeter wrote:Food for thought: What is the median age of Debian developers? How has that statistic changed over the last 5 years? Could the recent turbulence in Debian's internal governance be a generational thing?
Pretty much that.twoflowers wrote:That was to be expected. Well, good bye Debian
This is a very dark day indeed. I see no point in keeping Wheezy on my computer since it has no viable future.fruitofloom wrote:Pretty much that.twoflowers wrote:That was to be expected. Well, good bye Debian
Steady on chaps.Linadian wrote:This is a very dark day indeed. I see no point in keeping Wheezy on my computer since it has no viable future.fruitofloom wrote:Pretty much that.twoflowers wrote:That was to be expected. Well, good bye Debian
Even if the median age hasn't changed, I daresay this is almost certainly a generational thing, at least in part.keithpeter wrote:Food for thought: What is the median age of Debian developers? How has that statistic changed over the last 5 years? Could the recent turbulence in Debian's internal governance be a generational thing?
I really wish they'd created their own thing, their "CoreOS" if that's what they wanted. I wish they'd done it from the ground up and left Linux alone.dasein wrote:Haven't quite figured out yet exactly what I'll do, but to my mind, "Lennax" is really no different from Windows, much less any better.
These guys are dropping like flies. Is anyone left in charge of Debian?mmix wrote:Ian Jackson Resigns From The Debian Technical Committee
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=n ... px=MTg0NDA
if you want to avoid systemd distro, look here
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=118319