Where will you go after systemd?

[goulo]

You're clearly a clueless tard man and one of the most annoying kinds.
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(...and lots more repetitive rambling lmao tard lmao tard...)

Speaking of annoying...
Why is every post from you written like a teenager text-messaging?

[Deb-fan]

Well another obvious genius/rocket scientist among the Debian forum community. There are tons of kickbutt people in this community too.

Ya know they have this ignore feature here for blocking out users posts you don't want to read ? Yeah ... probably too much common sense for someone who likely has none. Poor widdle you, poor, poor widdle you dude.

[tomazzi]

Deb-fan: grow up, man - You've just made 2 mistakes:
1. You have just bumped this thread, so anyone can verify Your claims.
2. You've bumped this thread, thinking that You can show yourself clever, but the results are exactly the opposite.

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 20#p567393

Regards.

[schnuller]

You're clearly a clueless tard man and one of the most annoying kinds.
...
(...and lots more repetitive rambling lmao tard lmao tard...)

Speaking of annoying...
Why is every post from you written like a teenager text-messaging?

I for one don't understand a single post of him. Perhaps i am not willing to invest any energy in such posts.
Anyway, this is what the forum guidelines say:

A forum is a means of written communication so make sure your posts are as readable as possible. That means: Use capital letters and punctuation, and use the formatting features of the forum wisely in order to make your post attractive. Try to avoid 'l33t speak', 'chatspeak,' and 'SMS language'.
There is no need to apologize for poor English skills. We have users from all over the world and trying your best is more than adequate.

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=10653
In the past there haven't been such posts. At least not that long and that regularly.
I am not sure if those posts make the forum worse than it is anyway, but they sure are a good reason to ignore it completely.

Long story short:
If you do care you can report the posts as violating the forum guidelines (and hope that someone of the staff is left and bothers to act).

[edbarx]

Claiming technical discussions should be apolitical and strictly non-philosophical, is in itself, a philosophical stance.

[golinux]

@edbarx . . . nice to see you. Hope all is well.

[thanatos_incarnate]

Claiming technical discussions should be apolitical and strictly non-philosophical, is in itself, a philosophical stance.

Not sure if we can ever separate these. The only meaningful separation happened already -- there is a fork of Debian and there are other
distros (Gentoo) with which non-systemd distros can share upstream code.
What should really disappear is the emotional rhetoric.

[Danielsan]

Too much posts to read!

This is my idea.

1. Inspired by this thread: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=119860. Starting from Wheezy a custom installation which not provide any sistemd components (really hard...) using as wm Echinus Wm (https://github.com/polachok/echinus/tree/tint2, this is the Tint 2 branch).

2. Starting to use Gentoo which is pretty impressive!

3. Waiting for Devuan.

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Pass definetely to a BSD distro.

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Praying for HURD...

[schnuller]

Too much posts to read!

This is my idea.

1. Inspired by this thread: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=119860. Starting from Wheezy a custom installation which not provide any sistemd components (really hard...) using as wm Echinus Wm (https://github.com/polachok/echinus/tree/tint2, this is the Tint 2 branch).

2. Starting to use Gentoo which is pretty impressive!

echinus seems to be available in Gentoo:
user$ emerge --search echinus
Searching...
[ Results for search key : echinus ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]

* x11-wm/echinus [ Masked ]
Latest version available: 0.4.9
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 33 KiB
Homepage: http://plhk.ru/echinus
Description: A window manager for X in the spirit of dwm
License: MIT

user$

pray

same here ...

[thanatos_incarnate]

3. Waiting for Devuan.

Contribute to Devuan, so it's ready once Wheezy is EOL?

[Danielsan]

At this stage of developing there's nothing I am able to do...

[thanatos_incarnate]

At this stage of developing there's nothing I am able to do...

Well, it's not all programming... Artwork, forum spam hunting, spending 2 bucks to help them with hosting, just being productively active at the forums (helping people, etc.), writing howtos,...

[schnuller]

At this stage of developing there's nothing I am able to do...

Well, it's not all programming... Artwork, forum spam hunting, spending 2 bucks to help them with hosting, just being productively active at the forums (helping people, etc.), writing howtos,...

they have a forum?

[golinux]

At this stage of developing there's nothing I am able to do...

Well, it's not all programming... Artwork, forum spam hunting, spending 2 bucks to help them with hosting, just being productively active at the forums (helping people, etc.), writing howtos,...

they have a forum?

Nope. No forum. Just the mail list and irc.

[Danielsan]

At this stage of developing there's nothing I am able to do...

Well, it's not all programming... Artwork, forum spam hunting, spending 2 bucks to help them with hosting, just being productively active at the forums (helping people, etc.), writing howtos,...

I have a really good idea for the logo... If they are without logo yet... The problem is that I don't have time...

[mardybear]

If i previously posted on this massive thread, forgive me. My preferences probably changed anyway. Spent way too much trialing numerous other distributions and BSDs. In the end:

- Keep on with Debian Wheezy and hope for long term support. Debian probably maintains the largest software repository on this planet and i have yet to come across another non-Debian distribution that readily provides everything i need with a simple apt-get equivalent. Although it may seem like procrastinating, this should buy lots of time for new non-systemd developments.

- Upgrade to Jessie when Wheezy reaches end of life, staying with traditional init. By this time, Jessie should be extremely stable. Hopefully a minimal Jessie will allow me to use all the software i require without the need for systemd.

- Last option is presently a toss-up between a musl-based system (eg Tiny Core) or FreeBSD. Both are good, but i still prefer Debian. Based on limited experience, i can only say that i find Linux more interesting than the BSDs.

[twoflowers]

Just to put some oil on the fire: KDE is silently moving to systemd ...
https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/20/101235

[Moonshine]

Have been using systemd on my Sid desktop for about a year now. Learned how to make my own units/services (pretty neat) and the basic usage of systemctl, didn't have to dig much deeper. As of yet, haven't noticed my PC becoming noticeably more evil than the neighbouring Slackware laptop (with BSD-init).

[oswaldkelso]

Mean while over at Debian fork HQ

http://i.imgur.com/1PTI6L5.png

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yea!!! so we completely get rid of systemd now from installer to login

[schnuller]

http://i.imgur.com/1PTI6L5.png

ps -afe | grep [l]ogin
would get rid of the grep command itself.