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Useless softwarecenter

Postby Soyuz » 2015-02-11 22:10

Just used Softwareupdates. Cant handle request. Nothing about why and how I fix the blunder. Program totally useless.

Just used Softwarecenter. Most programs wont install, not even those delivered by debian. Need dependent packages from unauthorised sources.
Again nothing about why, what, how - program totally useless.

Same problem with synaptec. Useless.
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Re: Useless softwarecenter

Postby thanatos_incarnate » 2015-02-11 22:25

I cannot confirm your report on either Software Center or Synaptic.
Both work fine here.

But those programmes are not the official way of installing software
on Debian anyway. AFAIK, apt-get is the only recommended tool.

cf. https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debi ... operations
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Re: Useless softwarecenter

Postby emariz » 2015-02-11 22:27

Yes, indeed.
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Re: Useless softwarecenter

Postby stevepusser » 2015-02-12 01:30

Problems of this nature usually are because of adding strange outside repos, such as PPAs, or a problem with your software sources list.
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Re: Useless softwarecenter

Postby eor2004 » 2015-02-12 03:49

Another Case Of "PEBCAK"!
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Re: Useless softwarecenter

Postby schnuller » 2015-02-12 03:57

Read post. Info not good. Don't know apps speak you of.Question you got?
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Re: Useless softwarecenter

Postby Magnusmaster » 2015-02-12 04:33

What error message does Software Center show?
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Re: Useless softwarecenter

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2015-02-12 07:16

@OP: please post the output of:
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cat /etc/apt/sources.list
ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
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Re: Useless softwarecenter

Postby Soyuz » 2015-02-12 11:52

Just got some packageprogramme calle PackageKit. tried to install it. loads of things happens - until the very last line read-, intltool to old.
Well - hunt for intltool only to discover a couple of hours work in it to work.

Useless
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Re: Useless softwarecenter

Postby Soyuz » 2015-02-12 12:00

By the way - I am not trying to solve the problems mentioned by me.

I am merely commenting experiences with our beloved Linux.

If an end-user cannot install the app without the use of 2 linux-djinns and a nerd, it is considered useless.

You want your program out there? You want to flash your name on as many workstations as possible? Learn something about end-users and why they will discard your app if not installed in half an hour.

Also endusers will discard linux if all they can use is some apps theyve already have got working in their Windows.

BR

and old grumpy Z80-djinn and linux-nerd (0.99er).
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Re: Useless softwarecenter

Postby thanatos_incarnate » 2015-02-12 12:10

What is happening to you right now can in no way happen on Debian Stable.
You must have done something to mess up your package structure.
The same would have happened if you took win.ini from Windows Vista
and stuck it into Windows 98. The system would panic.

You're also a hypocrite -- you tinkered with something only advanced users
should tinkle with (on a Linux distro aimed at advanced users no less)
and now you don't want to do the advanced steps necessary to fix it,
but rather go about blaming the operating system.

We don't need your hints about improving Linux (whatever Linux means to you)
since they lack proper expertise and rationality. You are a troll, no more, no less.
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Re: Useless softwarecenter

Postby Soyuz » 2015-02-12 14:48

... and youre an ignorant. I am not trolling - just writing about my experiences with Debian Wheezy. So do not shoot before you ask, young man, otherwise I have to reply in the same acusing arrogant way.

The only things I have tampered with are things which I found in various debian-forums, "guaranteed" to work.

By the way - i just tried installing another programe. I have forgotten which after having to install various libraries and the last thing the machine wanted was to install gnome-utils.

After installing gnome-utils, I was hinted to log out and then login. Did that - no login screen, no X, no whatsoever. Rebooted. Nothing. No login screen, no x, no nothing.

Fortunaltely I have this laptop also running linux to reinstall the other machine, thus loosing numerous days of work.

Not that different from what made me skip linux fifteen years ago.

BTW: at university we were always taught: If the end-user can destroy a system - something has gone wrong during delvelopment.
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Re: Useless softwarecenter

Postby JLloyd13 » 2015-02-12 16:04

thanatos_incarnate wrote:What is happening to you right now can in no way happen on Debian Stable.
You must have done something to mess up your package structure.
The same would have happened if you took win.ini from Windows Vista
and stuck it into Windows 98. The system would panic.

You're also a hypocrite -- you tinkered with something only advanced users
should tinkle with (on a Linux distro aimed at advanced users no less)
and now you don't want to do the advanced steps necessary to fix it,
but rather go about blaming the operating system.

We don't need your hints about improving Linux (whatever Linux means to you)
since they lack proper expertise and rationality. You are a troll, no more, no less.


Very true. Go run Ubuntu and never mess with your sources if you want a software center and everything fine. Mess with your sources without knowing what you're doing is only asking for trouble.

OP says Windows users don't like that? Sucks. This isn't windows. We have our own way of doing things. People break Windows all the time, yes END USERS OFTEN BREAK WINDOWS, people break Linux all of the time, usually their own fault. That's totally Ok, its a great way to learn, but its not the fault of Linux
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Re: Useless softwarecenter

Postby JLloyd13 » 2015-02-12 16:07

Soyuz wrote:.

BTW: at university we were always taught: If the end-user can destroy a system - something has gone wrong during delvelopment.


New idea: if the end user CANT break their system, they haven't been given enough control over it.

If your additude is idiot proof, this is not for you.
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Re: Useless softwarecenter

Postby aicardi » 2015-02-12 16:18

Soyuz wrote:BTW: at university we were always taught: If the end-user can destroy a system - something has gone wrong during delvelopment.

Wrong.
1) In UNIX and UNIX-like systems there are users. There can be one, or many on a single system. Users can not destroy a system. That's what permissions are all about.
Of course they muck up anything and everything in their user space (home directory), but nothing outside of that.
2) The administrator (root) can certainly destroy the system. If you actually took any UNIX courses at the University you would know that UNIX assumes you know exactly what you are doing.
Clearly you do not.
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