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Re: Has modern Linux lost its way?

PostPosted: 2015-02-24 09:00
by Moonshine
mardybear wrote:This image represents modern Linux sound, since the introduction of pulseaudio - not complicated at all hey? FWIW, sound worked quite well for most old Linux users back in the Alsa-only days.

For those who are not aware, the same programming team has now provided the Linux community with the simplicity of systemd - just because it works, doesn't mean it's necessarily a good thing :wink:


Always had a lot of trouble making dmix work (my sound card has no hardware mixer). With pulse, everything just works. So yes, sorry, I'm pro-pulse, too :)

Re: Has modern Linux lost its way?

PostPosted: 2015-02-24 09:14
by schnuller
Your posts would have more reputation if you had a history in this forum.

My posts don't have reputation because i have a history ...

Re: Has modern Linux lost its way?

PostPosted: 2015-02-24 11:01
by Moonshine
schnuller wrote:Your posts would have more reputation if you had a history in this forum.

My posts don't have reputation because i have a history ...


No offence, but that's just childish. I don't care if my posts "have reputation", I'm just stating my opinion, based on my experience.

Re: Has modern Linux lost its way?

PostPosted: 2015-02-24 11:17
by schnuller
stating ones opinion
also known as: chat

experience

With more than 20 posts people could know if you have got experience.

Most people who do have got experience seem to be gone ... It was good, as long it lasted, though.

I for one have checked quite some communication channels of linux during the last weeks and months.
It sure *has* lost it's way.
The good news: I will leave those channels to the new gang.


And i will do it ... hold your breath ... ta-da: Now.

Re: Has modern Linux lost its way?

PostPosted: 2015-02-24 11:21
by Moonshine
schnuller wrote:stating ones opinion
also known as: chat

experience

With more than 20 posts people could know if you have got experience.



Well, sorry I wasn't born with 200 posts on a forum which isn't even in my native language :D

Re: Has modern Linux lost its way?

PostPosted: 2015-02-24 12:22
by thanatos_incarnate
schnuller wrote:And i will do it ... hold your breath ... ta-da: Now.

"This will be the last time,
I think I said that past time"

Re: Has modern Linux lost its way?

PostPosted: 2015-02-24 12:32
by JLloyd13
schnuller wrote:I for one have checked quite some communication channels of linux during the last weeks and months.
It sure *has* lost it's way.
The good news: I will leave those channels to the new gang.


And i will do it ... hold your breath ... ta-da: Now.


please do so. Your ways are not just childish, they border on trolling. Stop going after other users for no reason. Your behavior is something I'm more used to seeing on the Arch forums, except those people usually have some useful info hidden in there between the elitism

Re: Has modern Linux lost its way?

PostPosted: 2015-02-24 19:43
by mardybear
schnuller wrote:
My posts don't have reputation because i have a history ...

At least this post had some useful information.

And i will do it ... hold your breath ... ta-da: Now.

I doubt it ... you'll just create a new account and keep on trolling.
As a Linux elder, would be great if you spent some energy mentoring those will less experience. Nobody is born knowing Linux, or anything else for that matter. Me thinks cantankerous elders are just as big a problem in modern Linux than newbies who have not yet taken the time to learn or don't have enough experience.

JLloyd13 wrote:
Your ways are not just childish, they border on trolling

Border (?) on trolling...

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29


schnuller's recent greatest hits...how in any way does this benefit the community?
With more than 20 posts people could know if you have got experience.

Your posts would have more reputation if you had a history in this forum.

Such myths (netinstall will install a lean system) say a lot about todays debian users.

deep down in the hacker universe ...

What is that localectl? My first guess is that systemd took it over too ? Wow: Soon i won't be able to do most easy things in Linux anymore ....
lol.
Well: i am getting old. I will get used to it. I have to.
:-)
(Iron Maiden, huh? ).

The best idea is to go back to Windows. It has wrecked your brain and you will not be able to use other operating systems anymore (I guess you are not able to use Android, google store, neither, huh?).

i doubt you are up to that level.
In 8 years you would have shown it, if you were. At least once or twice.

not that much to analyze, not much time needed. of course i know your posts for years and they've always been like that, no matter what the subject is (back then it usually was ubuntu). The question is: what do you come here for? Only to tell that the world is your oyster? Init that getting boring, ...

I had to search for what Germans call "summen". It is neither silence nor singing (neither fish nor meat).
My dictionary gave me several proposals (hum, croon, buzz, haw, fizzling), but also purr (which is said to be the sound of lazy cats, enjoying life, too. Besides the other meaning). Hence i picked that. If my dict is correct, than it hits the nail, regarding your posts.
I can tell the meaning of your post before i even read it: There are no problems. Never. Ever. Whatsoever.
I never was disappointed.
The only problem i see: You need someone else, who speaks about problems, to tell him that there are no problems. If everyone would do it like that, there would be absolute silence.

Re: Has modern Linux lost its way?

PostPosted: 2015-02-24 20:37
by Head_on_a_Stick
mardybear wrote:schnuller's recent greatest hits...how in any way does this benefit the community?

I find him rather entertaining...

Re: Has modern Linux lost its way?

PostPosted: 2015-02-24 21:58
by mardybear
Never seen a more blatant history of repeated trolling...
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
I find him rather entertaining...

Then you either condone his behaviour or just want to stay on his good side - shame either way. Thought you worked in medicine - [edit] do no harm. Take an average weighting of the 10 most recent posts, on the whole have they been harmful or beneficial? Educational and informative? Welcoming and helpful?

Also either way another trollish mission accomplished - break up and disrupt the community.

An elitist membership and attitude was prevalent in debianuserforums.org. The forum is now essentially defunct with probably less than a dozen posts per week. Who would want to join the discussion? And no, not everything can be blamed on systemd.

Re: Has modern Linux lost its way?

PostPosted: 2015-02-24 22:26
by NkfzGx3ok
Assuming we are talking about desktop/distribution/GNU/whatever Linux and not just the kernel... No! Not at all!
I've asked this several times the past 15 years at points and seen people ask constantly year after year about random things - My ultimate conclusion is that *Linux can never lose its way because it has no set destination, the majority take it where they want it and re-invent wheels when the old ones are boring to them... or they bolt on fake chrome spinners... just f*kin look at emacs! :lol:

Re: Has modern Linux lost its way?

PostPosted: 2015-02-25 00:34
by JLloyd13
@mardybear

I'm sooo glad its not just me noticing this. Users such as this are hurting our community. We should be welcoming to new users- Debian is supposed to be the universal OS, not elitist.

Thank you.

Re: Has modern Linux lost its way?

PostPosted: 2015-02-25 00:58
by dasein
mardybear wrote:Never seen a more blatant history of repeated trolling...

Just check out any of his many sock puppet/alt-accounts. They all read the same.

Re: Has modern Linux lost its way?

PostPosted: 2015-02-25 03:15
by mean_dean
mardybear wrote:how in any way does this benefit

far too often I wonder that about the answers posted on this forum...sometimes even the questions....

Re: Has modern Linux lost its way?

PostPosted: 2015-02-25 09:13
by thanatos_incarnate
JLloyd13 wrote:Debian is supposed to be the universal OS, not elitist.

I somehow agree, but I'd still reserve the right not to help people who
expect a lot of hand-holding just because they didn't read the community rules
on how to search for help yourself before asking a question.
I also think it's perfectly OK to politely tell people when they're lazy or ignorant
about rules:

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