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No need for Skype anymore

Postby muttrudd » 2015-02-24 19:42

Others who are more plugged in might have already come across this, but it was good news for me:
Mozilla enables video chats through firefox/iceweasel.
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2015/01/13/firefox-hello-makes-connecting-by-video-as-simple-as-in-person/
I tried with iceweasel 31 and it works. No need to make an account or anything.
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Re: No need for Skype anymore

Postby Moonshine » 2015-02-24 20:44

The problem with Skype is not that there are no alternatives. It's that everybody is already using it. I may present you with a view from post-USSR, maybe it differs from US or UK. If you go out of your local group of Linux nerds - no one uses anything else than Skype. 99% of non-technical people are not aware of any alternatives, and they are not interested, because all their friends, relatives, business contacts are using Skype too.
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Re: No need for Skype anymore

Postby stevepusser » 2015-02-24 21:32

Moonshine wrote:The problem with Skype is not that there are no alternatives. It's that everybody is already using it. I may present you with a view from post-USSR, maybe it differs from US or UK. If you go out of your local group of Linux nerds - no one uses anything else than Skype. 99% of non-technical people are not aware of any alternatives, and they are not interested, because all their friends, relatives, business contacts are using Skype too.


True, but they used to say that about Internet Explorer, too.
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Re: No need for Skype anymore

Postby Bulkley » 2015-02-24 22:22

How is Firefox Hello for quality?
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Re: No need for Skype anymore

Postby stevepusser » 2015-02-24 22:44

I'm sure it depends on your connection....

Quality is "pretty good" according to this review: http://geekbeat.tv/review-firefox-hello-video-calling/
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Re: No need for Skype anymore

Postby emariz » 2015-02-24 23:12

I never liked Skype and have been using the Talk plug-in of Google Hangouts for years. It works great on all platforms and all Internet browsers. And it was easy to 'convert' my family because we use Google Apps for e-mail.

I still do not use Firefox Hello on a regular basis, but when I tried it, its quality was as good as that from Google Hangouts, and just as easy to use.
Considering that it does not require a plug-in, I may try to 'push' Firefox Hello into my family members and do a heavier testing of the service. We will see how it goes.
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Re: No need for Skype anymore

Postby Bulkley » 2015-02-24 23:23

stevepusser wrote:I'm sure it depends on your connection....

Quality is "pretty good" according to this review: http://geekbeat.tv/review-firefox-hello-video-calling/


Yes, I saw that but I am more interested in the OP's impression. After all, he's using Linux.
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Re: No need for Skype anymore

Postby stevepusser » 2015-02-25 00:05

Postby emariz » 2015-02-24 15:12
I never liked Skype and have been using the Talk plug-in of Google Hangouts for years. It works great on all platforms and all Internet browsers.


Except it now needs a newer libc6 than Wheezy provides. :?

Chrome's built-in version still works, though. :roll:
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Re: No need for Skype anymore

Postby sjukfan » 2015-02-25 00:18

Hopefully Microsoft will be able to drive people away from Skype. I'm not sure if it's intentional but the user interface has become worse and worse with every release. Both on Linux and Windows. Not sure if Firefox Hello is the right one but I like the idea that you're not locked in using one special software.
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Re: No need for Skype anymore

Postby emariz » 2015-02-25 03:41

stevepusser wrote:Except it now needs a newer libc6 than Wheezy provides.

Ah!, the perks of ignorance. My family uses Windows or Mac, and I moved directly from Squeeze to Jessie-Testing, thus we never noticed the issue. Good to know, mate.
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Re: No need for Skype anymore

Postby JLloyd13 » 2015-02-25 04:00

Moonshine wrote:The problem with Skype is not that there are no alternatives. It's that everybody is already using it. I may present you with a view from post-USSR, maybe it differs from US or UK. If you go out of your local group of Linux nerds - no one uses anything else than Skype. 99% of non-technical people are not aware of any alternatives, and they are not interested, because all their friends, relatives, business contacts are using Skype too.


Very very true, and I disagree with the other poster on IE, different kind of software, you don't need a new account and convert your peers to be functional on a different web browser. All of my friends use and family use skype- no getting around it for me if I want to stay in touch.
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Re: No need for Skype anymore

Postby Bulkley » 2015-02-25 06:53

JLloyd13 wrote:All of my friends use and family use skype- no getting around it for me if I want to stay in touch.


Mine too. I've been told Skype or I'm out of the conversation. This Firefox Hello might change things. It claims to work with Chrome and Opera. Of course, my family won't give up IE either. I can't win.
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Re: No need for Skype anymore

Postby edbarx » 2015-02-25 08:42

The same applies to me if I want to continue communicating with my family members who have settled in other countries. Software choice is a nice thing, but sometimes, one has to give up that value, unless there are other working options. Probably, Skype, in the near future, will use systemd together with pulseaudio which is already being used. This means, even though systemd & Co, represent something one would want to avoid at all costs, there are situations where the purpose outweighs the means.
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Re: No need for Skype anymore

Postby Moonshine » 2015-02-25 08:54

edbarx wrote:Probably, Skype, in the near future, will use systemd together with pulseaudio which is already being used.


I can hardly imagine Skype actually using systemd itself. However, Skype uses pulseaudio, and pulseaudio will probably depend on systemd, so, effectively, you're right.
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Re: No need for Skype anymore

Postby thanatos_incarnate » 2015-02-25 09:04

stevepusser wrote:Except it now needs a newer libc6 than Wheezy provides. :?

I've been wondering where all those support questions from noobs about repos came from. :lol:
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