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Anyone using Stretch yet?
Anyone using Stretch yet?
When Jessie became Stable I upgraded. I have liked all Debian releases but particularly Wheezy; Jessie not so much. I'm not quite sure why but Jessie doesn't impress me. Consequently, after making sure that all was working I changed my sources to Testing and kept upgrading. So far, Stretch looks better to me than Jessie. Sorry, I can't quite figure out why; it's just gut feeling.
Any thoughts?
Any thoughts?
Re: Anyone using Stretch yet?
[quote="Bulkley"]...Stretch looks better to me than Jessie... it's just gut feeling. [/quo9te]
Maybe its an "Arch" thing.
Maybe its an "Arch" thing.
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Re: Anyone using Stretch yet?
You prefer octopussi over cowgirls?Bulkley wrote:Any thoughts?
I still like sid -- it's absolutely awesome at the moment, keeps trying to remove my entire desktop every time I upgrade...
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Re: Anyone using Stretch yet?
I'm pretty impressed with Jessie so far, havnt tried the new testing yet. If you liked Wheezy so much it is supported for another 3 years.
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Re: Anyone using Stretch yet?
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That's strange, since last evening i could dist-upgrade cleanly.Head_on_a_Stick wrote:keeps trying to remove my entire desktop every time I upgrade...
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Re: Anyone using Stretch yet?
Yeah, it's fully updated nowfireExit wrote:<offtopic>That's strange, since last evening i could dist-upgrade cleanly.Head_on_a_Stick wrote:keeps trying to remove my entire desktop every time I upgrade...
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I got hit by the libsane bug yesterday as well -- as I say, great fun
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Re: Anyone using Stretch yet?
ahh, i missed that one when xserver and xfce were ready to update the libsane fixed version was already in my mirror
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cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep libsane
2015-05-09 18:00:00 upgrade libsane:amd64 1.0.24-9+b1 1.0.24-11
2015-05-09 18:00:00 status half-configured libsane:amd64 1.0.24-9+b1
2015-05-09 18:00:00 status unpacked libsane:amd64 1.0.24-9+b1
2015-05-09 18:00:00 status half-installed libsane:amd64 1.0.24-9+b1
2015-05-09 18:00:02 status half-installed libsane:amd64 1.0.24-9+b1
2015-05-09 18:00:02 status unpacked libsane:amd64 1.0.24-11
2015-05-09 18:00:02 status unpacked libsane:amd64 1.0.24-11
2015-05-09 18:00:02 upgrade libsane-common:all 1.0.24-9 1.0.24-11
2015-05-09 18:00:02 status half-configured libsane-common:all 1.0.24-9
2015-05-09 18:00:02 status unpacked libsane-common:all 1.0.24-9
2015-05-09 18:00:02 status half-installed libsane-common:all 1.0.24-9
2015-05-09 18:00:04 status half-installed libsane-common:all 1.0.24-9
2015-05-09 18:00:04 status half-installed libsane-common:all 1.0.24-9
2015-05-09 18:00:05 status unpacked libsane-common:all 1.0.24-11
2015-05-09 18:00:05 status unpacked libsane-common:all 1.0.24-11
2015-05-09 18:03:00 configure libsane-common:all 1.0.24-11 <none>
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Re: Anyone using Stretch yet?
dasein wrote:Maybe its an "Arch" thing.Bulkley wrote:...Stretch looks better to me than Jessie... it's just gut feeling.
Re: Anyone using Stretch yet?
We have a laptop that is going to stay Wheezy for the foreseeable future. I also have my Wheezy for my desktop nicely cloned on another drive if I decide to backtrack. Gotta love Clonezilla!dasein wrote:Bulkley wrote:...Stretch looks better to me than Jessie... it's just gut feeling. [/quo9te]
Maybe its an "Arch" thing.
Ardouos wrote:If you liked Wheezy so much it is supported for another 3 years.
Re: Anyone using Stretch yet?
I'm still using Squeeze on my acer aspire one netbook but now have jessie on my home desktop and on my office computer too where there are two other desktops running wheezy as well as on a server. I'm content with stable but I'm tempted to start tracking stretch rather than using it as my main system, using a chroot as per edbarx's viewtopic.php?f=16&t=107544.
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$ vrms
No non-free or contrib packages installed on debian! rms would be proud.
Re: Anyone using Stretch yet?
I have been using Testing since last November, and this system caught Stretch last weekend, when over one ninety packages became upgradeable and over one thousand new packages appeared. (Note that I also track Testing Proposed Updates.)
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Re: Anyone using Stretch yet?
My desktop in my apartment is currently on Debian Testing ("Stretch"). Whatever was missing Jessie, Stretch filled in the blank very well. No problems or bugs thus far.
My laptop is always on Debian Unstable ("Sid"). I only had to wait a week to be sure that almost nothing gets removed due to anything xorg-related or xserver-related.
My laptop is always on Debian Unstable ("Sid"). I only had to wait a week to be sure that almost nothing gets removed due to anything xorg-related or xserver-related.
Re: Anyone using Stretch yet?
And what are the benefits of your approach, compared to using Testing?TonyVanDam wrote:My laptop is always on Debian Unstable ("Sid"). I only had to wait a week to be sure that almost nothing gets removed due to anything xorg-related or xserver-related.
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Re: Anyone using Stretch yet?
My laptop is better suited for anything that can go right OR wrong from using Sid. And besides, I like newer software.emariz wrote:And what are the benefits of doing that instead of using Testing?TonyVanDam wrote:My laptop is always on Debian Unstable ("Sid"). I only had to wait a week to be sure that almost nothing gets removed due to anything xorg-related or xserver-related.
Re: Anyone using Stretch yet?
But if you wait one week before installing updates in Sid and new packages (hopefully) migrate to Testing ten days after they reach Sid, your system is never actually that new when compared to Testing.TonyVanDam wrote:My laptop is better suited for anything that can go right OR wrong from using Sid. And besides, I like newer software.
To each his own, I guess.
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Re: Anyone using Stretch yet?
As there is a delay in introducing new packages to Testing, any problems that are introduced to Testing stay there for 10-14 days.emariz wrote:And what are the benefits of your approach, compared to using Testing?TonyVanDam wrote:My laptop is always on Debian Unstable ("Sid"). I only had to wait a week to be sure that almost nothing gets removed due to anything xorg-related or xserver-related.
With sid, a new version is pushed out straight away so any problems are actually dealt with more quickly.
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Re: Anyone using Stretch yet?
Yes, testing may "work" for longer. But it breaks for longer too. Some packages can be broken/ removed for months until there is a "fix" in unstable.Head_on_a_Stick wrote:As there is a delay in introducing new packages to Testing, any problems that are introduced to Testing stay there for 10-14 days.emariz wrote:And what are the benefits of your approach, compared to using Testing?TonyVanDam wrote:My laptop is always on Debian Unstable ("Sid"). I only had to wait a week to be sure that almost nothing gets removed due to anything xorg-related or xserver-related.
With sid, a new version is pushed out straight away so any problems are actually dealt with more quickly.
So its either:
More time working; more time broken
vs
Less time working; less time broken
Obviously it all comes down to the users capabilities too!
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Re: Anyone using Stretch yet?
Of course You're right. Testing is, well, for testing...Ardouos wrote: Yes, testing may "work" for longer. But it breaks for longer too. Some packages can be broken/ removed for months until there is a "fix" in unstable.
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Obviously it all comes down to the users capabilities too!
But: If a single human is holding the resposibility for a quality of particular package, then obviously, he can mislook something - and here's where the users can come in: report bugs people, report bugs with as much as possible detailed bug describtion.
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Re: Anyone using Stretch yet?
I am very satisfied with xfce 12 comes to testing, so I decide to reinstall mine straight from testing....for my Asus X