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Re: What would you do??

Postby thanatos_incarnate » 2015-07-16 08:53

Regarding original topic:
Well, are you sure you want to dual boot and have 2 systems just because of 1 programme? Why not just run Windows in a virtual machine and have it autostart the programme?

tomazzi wrote:Inkscape does support CMYK quite well.

It does? How so? I only know of the option to convert the created output files with an external command (ghostscript,...)
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Re: What would you do??

Postby tomazzi » 2015-07-16 10:50

thanatos_incarnate wrote:It does? How so? I only know of the option to convert the created output files with an external command (ghostscript,...)

It does, but it still have some problems with converting the output data to non-native formats. But, as You said, there is ghostscript and f.e. Scribus.
Practically full color space and color profile management is implemented, with the exception of few rather rarily used features, like f.e. compensation /simulation of target device pixel shape and orientation.

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Re: What would you do??

Postby thanatos_incarnate » 2015-07-16 12:23

tomazzi wrote:It does, but it still have some problems with converting the output data to non-native formats. But, as You said, there is ghostscript and f.e. Scribus.
Practically full color space and color profile management is implemented, with the exception of few rather rarily used features, like f.e. compensation /simulation of target device pixel shape and orientation.

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Do you mean that 1 plugin developed by this Portuguese guy which does PDF CMYK exports? It stopped working a long time ago. He wanted to make a new one that does more formats, but a working version is yet to be spotted.

I'll try with Ghostscript and do a howto maybe.

I used to do it by converting the file to TIFF with Gimp, but the file size were enormous.
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Re: What would you do??

Postby tomazzi » 2015-07-16 17:00

thanatos_incarnate wrote:Do you mean that 1 plugin developed by this Portuguese guy which does PDF CMYK exports?

No, I mean that Inkscape does support CMYK color space trough color profiles (with few limitations), only the function to export those data to PDF is not implemented. However the profiles can be saved without a problem in the native SVG format.
And for this only reason You need Scribus or ghostscript as postprocessors.

...And excluding the above problem, Inkscape produces just excelent PDF files :)

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Re: What would you do??

Postby millpond » 2015-07-17 07:08

Every new version of Win just creates unnecessary bloat that strains the hardware to make you 'upgrade' your machine.

Use the oldest Win version that satisfies your needs, and dual boot.
I dual boot this machine with XP.

Wine has been improving, and often win apps that are recalcitrant can be coaxed into working by copying over dlls/ocx files from the Win partition.

Linux is a programmer's OS bar none. But it has poor driver support.
Win is great for I\O and proprietary apps. But it is first and foremost a *virus*. Totally compromised by design.
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Re: What would you do??

Postby tomazzi » 2015-07-18 13:42

millpond wrote:Every new version of Win just creates unnecessary bloat that strains the hardware to make you 'upgrade' your machine.

Use the oldest Win version that satisfies your needs, and dual boot.
I dual boot this machine with XP.

Wine has been improving, and often win apps that are recalcitrant can be coaxed into working by copying over dlls/ocx files from the Win partition.

True.

millpond wrote:Linux is a programmer's OS bar none. But it has poor driver support.
Win is great for I\O and proprietary apps.

Not true.
In fact, linux kernel supports the overhelming majority of existing hardware - so definitely, this is not a "poor" support.
Moreover, almost all drivers for very old hardware are still easily available - unlike in case of windows, where the support is intentionally cutted, to force customers to buy a new hardware.
Exactly at the moment I'm using ~15 years old 3Com network adapter, which is supported by Wheezy out-of-the-box - because this old card is faster than that crap embedded into mainboard, and it's firmware-less, so it can't be compromised by firmware-based attacks.

Winblows has very poor I/O performance, especially when it comes to HDD - Linux is 20 years ahead in terms of storage device's transfer management. Technologies like NCQ and TRIM ATAPI extension were designed only to raise the poor performance of NTFS, which is just total crap.
Not to mension, that real-time I/O access is far easier and simpler to achieve in Linux.

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/Edit:
Regarding the question in topic:
Since I'm still writting apps for winblows (from time to time, if someone wants to pay for this) I have both XP and win7 installed in a VM.
IMO this is far better solution than using win as a host:
1. Even the latest version of winblows are somtimes damaged by updates, viruses, etc - VM offers differential backups, which are very slim, easy to manage and fast. No more broken winblows :)
2. Since linux as host is ten times faster and has better HDD and cache management, then winblows works much faster in a VM than as a host OS
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Re: What would you do??

Postby spacex » 2015-07-21 07:43

Dual-boot with a shared data-partition is what I would do.
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Re: What would you do??

Postby millpond » 2015-07-22 22:08

Winblows has very poor I/O performance, especially when it comes to HDD - Linux is 20 years ahead in terms of storage device's transfer management. Technologies like NCQ and TRIM ATAPI extension were designed only to raise the poor performance of NTFS, which is just total crap.
Not to mension, that real-time I/O access is far easier and simpler to achieve in Linux.

Regards.

/Edit:
Regarding the question in topic:
Since I'm still writting apps for winblows (from time to time, if someone wants to pay for this) I have both XP and win7 installed in a VM.
IMO this is far better solution than using win as a host:
1. Even the latest version of winblows are somtimes damaged by updates, viruses, etc - VM offers differential backups, which are very slim, easy to manage and fast. No more broken winblows :)
2. Since linux as host is ten times faster and has better HDD and cache management, then winblows works much faster in a VM than as a host OS
/edit.[/quote]


Traditionally I have had to boot to win for large file transfers across the network.
There was a bug, noted by many in the drivers that cuased some older 32 bit mobos to give glacial speeds even with addon lan cards.
But Jessie seems to have improved things.
On this system I am using the built in lan, and Jessie seems to have improved drive/drive transfer. On a par, if perhaps a bit slower than Win.
But it blazes using CIFS across the network. 50% faster not only than WIn, but faster than the ancient Netgear router can nominally support.
However, writing to the USB stick is at floppy speeds at best, making Jessie totally worthless for that function.
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Re: What would you do??

Postby @zephyr » 2015-08-24 10:50

@ jmgibson1981: Really the choice is yours, many dual boot with Linux and Windows. There are many here that Windows plays a sour note and rightly so. I have a copy of Windows XP, but use it as a coaster for drinks. A friend gave me a copy of Windows 10, a corporate version, and gave it back. I have no need or want to even see what it is all about. The press has been hard on Windows 10, it is all about privacy invasion from the word go, and so much built into it that you can't prevent it. I like XP, it was my final and last Windows and went to Debian 4 years ago. I am retired, and no need to use it at work anylonger, I can just remember all the freeze ups, and slow boot, and when it would just forever pause with that little spinning notification. I honestly don't understand why someone would use it at home, unless they are tethered work wise and require specific software. I have helped liberate many friends, and family members from Microsoft, really anyone I meet to help them escape the suffering. But, respect greatly a persons right to make a choice on what they think and feel what is right for them. Like being married to a wonderful person, then having an affair with the ex, it doesn't work. We should never forget why we left Windows.
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Re: What would you do??

Postby sckyless » 2015-09-22 16:10

To be honest, Win10 is better than Win 8/7 and it really worth a try. My suggestion is that stay withe one you are comfortable with. :D
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