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What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?

Postby edbarx » 2016-01-23 20:43

Since, the last policy changes by the firefox developer team, their famous browser and its functional replica, iceweasel, are expected as some threads on these fora explained, to require more powerful computers, I am creating this thread to discuss what alternative browsers exist, if any at all. Those who don't have high end hardware 'may' start to experience drops in performance of their favourite browser.

As my hardware is NOT the best on the planet boasting of eight or ten cores and my RAM is only a measly 2 GB, I am expecting that my long use of iceweasel may soon come to an end.

The crucial quesiton is: which existent browsers can effectively replace iceweasel for hardware that is not so recent?
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2016-01-23 20:47

qutebrowser is excellent, the spiritual successor to dwb
https://github.com/The-Compiler/qutebrowser

Unfortunately not in the Debian repositories but not a problem for a user of your calibre ;)
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?

Postby edbarx » 2016-01-23 21:20

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:qutebrowser is excellent, the spiritual successor to dwb
https://github.com/The-Compiler/qutebrowser

Unfortunately not in the Debian repositories but not a problem for a user of your calibre ;)


That looks like suggesting a donkey for a car as a means of transcontinental transport.

Debianizing the above is not that difficult provided the actual code does not need editing. To create a functional but primitive debian subdirectory in the source's tree, use dh_make while in the source's top directory. That should allow for using dpkg-buildpackage to work.
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?

Postby No_windows » 2016-01-23 22:22

I'm still using Iceweasel but I also use Opera and Qupzilla.
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?

Postby stevepusser » 2016-01-23 22:25

Much of the blame rests on websites piling on loads of javascript and ads for no good reason except ad revenue.

Pale Moon is based on Firefox 25, if that's fast enough for you. I'm currently trying Slimjet, but that's based on current Chromium, so might still be too heavy for you.
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?

Postby stevepusser » 2016-01-23 22:36

edbarx wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:qutebrowser is excellent, the spiritual successor to dwb
https://github.com/The-Compiler/qutebrowser

Unfortunately not in the Debian repositories but not a problem for a user of your calibre ;)


That looks like suggesting a donkey for a car as a means of transcontinental transport.

Debianizing the above is not that difficult provided the actual code does not need editing. To create a functional but primitive debian subdirectory in the source's tree, use dh_make while in the source's top directory. That should allow for using dpkg-buildpackage to work.


It looks like qutebrowser is a Python3 program that uses its Qt5 bindings, so would have to be packaged in the python3 fashion---but you can directly run a Python program without compiling it, anyway. I can't say I like the recommendation to upgrade Qt 5 for Jessie from the experimental repository: https://github.com/The-Compiler/qutebro ... L.asciidoc

which seems like a recipe for disaster for many people.
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?

Postby arabianights » 2016-01-24 00:07

I use palemoon and xombrero

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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?

Postby Bulkley » 2016-01-24 01:26

stevepusser wrote:Much of the blame rests on websites piling on loads of javascript and ads for no good reason except ad revenue.


Agreed. Blocking the crap as much as possible might help. Also, turn off Flash. Prefbar is an extension that lets you turn features on or off on the fly which is handy.

I've tried a number of browsers but keep coming back to Iceweasel. Speed and features are inversely related; the more features the worse the speed.
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?

Postby edbarx » 2016-01-24 07:51

Thanks to all those who made valid suggestions. I am trying palemoon as it is iceweasel from some time ago.

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Using palemoon is a matter of downloading the version for Linux and extracting it to your home directory. The palemoon executable is named 'palemoon'.
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?

Postby kedaha » 2016-01-24 07:55

Epiphany's my recommendation.
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?

Postby stevepusser » 2016-01-24 08:02

Pale Moon has a slight caveat for KDE users, it'll crash constantly in KDE if you have gtk2 applications in the KDE systemsettings set to use "oxygen-gtk", provided by gtk2-engines-oxygen. The workaround is to use some other theme, such as qtcurve.
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?

Postby Wheelerof4te » 2016-01-24 11:05

I agree, IW/FF v40+ are much more resource hungry than earlier versions. I blame it on new junk features (who needs volumeicon on their tabs?) and lots of buttons that do nothing.

Flashblock and NoScript extensions are good enough to speed things up. Avoid using Adblock on slow computers, as it eats up RAM like crazy. As for the alternatives, I don't see any ATM.
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?

Postby n_hologram » 2016-01-24 15:09

edbarx wrote:Thanks to all those who made valid suggestions. I am trying palemoon as it is iceweasel from some time ago.

To All Interested:
Using palemoon is a matter of downloading the version for Linux and extracting it to your home directory. The palemoon executable is named 'palemoon'.

How's it working for you? When I last tried it a few years ago on an underpowered system (1.6ghz, 2gb), it ran terribly.
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?

Postby dasein » 2016-01-24 17:09

stevepusser wrote:Pale Moon has a slight caveat for KDE users...

PaleMoon also has some nontechnical issues that some folks may or may not find worrisome.

- Certain FF extensions are deliberately rendered nonfunctional inside PM (AdBlockPlus being perhaps the most high-profile). I don't know if it's still true, nor which/how many extensions are affected, but folks who are serious about FOSS and the DFSG in particular may find such behavior troubling.

- When I went to install PM on my android phone, the mobile version wanted all sorts of permissions it had no business asking for (including and most egregiously, my "identity"). Any time an app asks for extraneous permissions, it sets off a "red flag" for me. I ended up installing Opera mobile.
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2016-01-24 17:20

edbarx wrote:That looks like suggesting a donkey for a car as a means of transcontinental transport.

Oh, OK, sorry to waste your time :(

edbarx wrote:Debianizing the above is not that difficult provided the actual code does not need editing. To create a functional but primitive debian subdirectory in the source's tree, use dh_make while in the source's top directory. That should allow for using dpkg-buildpackage to work.

Fascinating, thank you!
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