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Re: Why is LXDE losing its popularity among Linux users?

Postby Danielsan » 2016-02-21 16:00

Ehmmm.... Somebody missed that the LXDE and Razorq DE projects merged in one single project LXQT...

http://lxqt.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LXQt
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Re: Why is LXDE losing its popularity among Linux users?

Postby thanatos_incarnate » 2016-02-22 08:58

Danielsan wrote:Ehmmm.... Somebody missed that the LXDE and Razorq DE projects merged in one single project LXQT...

http://lxqt.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LXQt


Ehmmm.... Somebody missed half the thread:

HuangLao wrote:Here you go this is from last July and it is quoting one of the developers that pcman put in charge of LXDE, so he (pcman) can focus on LXQt. Once again it is still being maintained. As long as GTK2 is around and they will cross the hurdle of GTK3 when they get there.
http://www.iwillfolo.com/lxde-not-dead-says-one-developers-actually-actively-developed/
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Re: Why is LXDE losing its popularity among Linux users?

Postby Danielsan » 2016-02-22 21:22

:oops: :oops: :oops:

Sorry...
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Re: Why is LXDE losing its popularity among Linux users?

Postby oldtechaa » 2016-02-22 21:38

It's OK. Sometimes we just don't have time to read threads real thoroughly.
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Re: Why is LXDE losing its popularity among Linux users?

Postby TonyVanDam » 2016-02-24 01:58

dasein wrote:
HuangLao wrote:
dasein wrote:LXDE is no longer in active development. For more information, do what you should have done in the first place: spend 15 seconds doing an obvious Web search like lxde development


Sorry but LXDE is still maintained...

And to prove it you point to an old blog post that says "both are still being maintained," despite the fact that the last release of LXDE actually predates the blog post you point to. Alrighty then.
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One of the DE's has had two point releases since that post, while the other has had zero. Call me a data snob, but I find it hard to think of them both as "actively developed," regardless of what someone says (or, more accurately, said 14 months ago).


Excuse you, but the last updated information concerning LXDE was in 12/7/2015:
http://blog.lxde.org/

LXDE developments are still alive and well. And also, LXDE will still exist long after LXqt reach 1.0 status.
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Re: Why is LXDE losing its popularity among Linux users?

Postby TonyVanDam » 2016-02-24 02:06

prahladyeri wrote:After trying out all the DEs including KDE, Unity, GNOME, XFCE and LXDE, I've found that the last one is a marvelous piece of engineering and is the only Desktop that follows the unix philosophy in the true sense.

In fact, it is not as much a DE as a meta-package consisting of components like openbox, lxpanel and lxappearance that you may as well assemble on your own! In other words, simplicity and minimalism which you don't find anywhere else.

But I was truly astonished when I visited LXDE forums and found that it is quite inactive. There hasn't been a single post in the month of february. This indicates that lots of people have shifted to GNOME or KDE and forsaken this wonderful DE.

And the interesting part is that in most phronix benchmarks, LXDE turns out to be the fastest, then why do people insist on installing bloated monsters like Unity and GNOME. If all I use my machine is to do "actual things" like browsing the Internet, checking emails, working with spreadsheets and other apps, then why is the choice of DE such an important thing?


First of all, who told you that LXDE was no longer popular among Linux users? Are you not aware that there are still Linux distros [EXAMPLES: Lubuntu, LXLE, Knoppix, Raspbian, etc.] that use LXDE as their primany desktop environment?
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Re: Why is LXDE losing its popularity among Linux users?

Postby TonyVanDam » 2016-02-24 02:21

Wheelerof4te wrote:There is really no need for LXDE since even the most low-end PCs and notebooks of today will run XFCE easily. For really old hardware, there is openbox/fluxbox and Co.

I get the ''Unix'' philosophy, but we shouldn't constrain ourselves with blind ideology any more. People simply like stuff that just works.


Not true. My 13-years-old Gateway desktop PC has been kind of slow running modern-day middleweight XFCE, hence why a lightweight desktop environments like LXDE are still needed. What's even better is a lightweight distro like antiX [Full] that used IceWM as a primany window manager. My desktop may lived to see age 15 yet! :mrgreen:

And lets not forget that lightweight distros using LXDE, LXqt, Enlightenment, Fluxbox, IceWM, Openbox, or JWM are pretty fast on newer desktops & laptops with faster CPUs & loads of RAMs.
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Re: Why is LXDE losing its popularity among Linux users?

Postby TonyVanDam » 2016-02-24 02:42

thanatos_incarnate wrote:I use Xfce because of 1 thing: Thunar has the custom action thing. If pcmanfm had that, I'd rather use LXDE since I think Openbox is a leaner WM as Xfwm and the DE itself has less overhead. It has everything an advanced user would need and a lot of other UI stuff can be borrowed from other leaner DEs like Xfce or Mate.

Of course, if you need a complete set of GUI tools and don't like to use the console from time to time, then Xfce or better yet Mate would be better contenders, while still beaing overall lean desktops compared to Gnome or KDE.


In my professional opinion, xfce is currently the best desktop environment because it looks and feels "complete", which makes it's a great thing for my laptop. 8) And also, xfce has never been over the top or overproduced like what KDE 5 & GNOME 3 has become with all of their [dis]respected software bloating.
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Re: Why is LXDE losing its popularity among Linux users?

Postby GarryRicketson » 2016-02-24 03:24

But I was truly astonished when I visited LXDE forums and found that it is quite inactive. There hasn't been a single post in the month of february. This indicates that lots of people have shifted to GNOME or KDE and forsaken this wonderful DE.

This does not indicate Linux users have forsaken LXDE, nor that people have shifted to Gnome, or kde, all it indicates is that for some reason people have lost interest in the LXDE forum.
In no way does it reflect on how popular or unpopular lxde is, all it shows is the forum is not popular.
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Re: Why is LXDE losing its popularity among Linux users?

Postby MALsPa » 2016-02-24 04:13

I'd tried LXDE a few times, a few years back, and didn't care much for it. Since it brought in Openbox, which I did like, I always ended up using that instead.

Now I have two installations with LXDE -- Lubuntu 14.04 and Jessie with LXDE. I'm liking LXDE a lot more than I used to, although I did still set up Openbox on both installations, so sometimes I log into LXDE, sometimes into Openbox.

I didn't think that LXDE was "losing its popularity" but if that's true, it doesn't really concern me.

I enjoy running different enviroments on different days (because I can!), can't say that I really have a favorite. Each one has its pros and cons. Xfce is great, too, and I also like Unity, GNOME Shell, and KDE. I use Fluxbox, as well. LXDE is nice to use on my slowest computer. I want to try LXQt next.
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Re: Why is LXDE losing its popularity among Linux users?

Postby dieselnutjob » 2016-03-31 09:13

Years and years ago I used to be a KDE user. At a certain point (I don't remember exactly when) they totally changed everything, and it seemed to become too bloated for the ancient hardware that I was using at the time and so I was forced to change. I think it was they changed to that complicated launcher thing instead of kicker.

Where I landed was XFCE, which I think is great. I also tried LXDE but for some reason that I'm not quite sure of, I just didn't like it as much.

Now LXQT has landed, and I really like it. I would absolutely encourage anyone to give it a go.

LXQT is now part of Debian Stretch (testing at the moment) and it works really nicely. It looks nice and works well on older PCs, or absolutely flies on newer hardware.

I could not get the stretch netinst installer to work, so to do a fresh install this is what I did:-

Build a jessie minimal install with no desktop environment at all.
Change sources.list from jessie to stretch
apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
reboot
apt-get install xorg sddm lxqt
reboot and enjoy

I think that LXDE is basically going to die out now to be replaced by LXQT.

It is well worth giving it a try out, and I think good enough to get a few KDE or ex KDE users and also maybe some XFCE users as well.
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Re: Why is LXDE losing its popularity among Linux users?

Postby capricorny » 2016-03-31 11:57

dieselnutjob wrote:Years and years ago I used to be a KDE user. At a certain point (I don't remember exactly when) they totally changed everything, and it seemed to become too bloated for the ancient hardware that I was using at the time and so I was forced to change. I think it was they changed to that complicated launcher thing instead of kicker.

Where I landed was XFCE, which I think is great. I also tried LXDE but for some reason that I'm not quite sure of, I just didn't like it as much.

Now LXQT has landed, and I really like it. I would absolutely encourage anyone to give it a go.

Thanks for the info! I have a similar pre-history, except that I used LXDE because it was "adequate for my needs". Now I would be very interested in the relative merits of contemporary XFCE and LXQt, and the necessary dependencies. You prefer LXQt over XFCE now, or? Comparisons to old LXDE isn't really that interesting anymore, now LXQt is testable.
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Re: Why is LXDE losing its popularity among Linux users?

Postby dieselnutjob » 2016-03-31 12:08

yes I really like it (LXQT that is). I am now using it as my everyday environment.
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Re: Why is LXDE losing its popularity among Linux users?

Postby MARKMENTAL » 2016-04-02 22:16

LXDE never appealed to me. I always prefered GNOME 2 and 3. XFCE is pretty nice however if you're looking for a light desktop.
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