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Re: Debian feels like having to remove panel, short the wire

#21 Post by aNoobInSweden »

NFT5 wrote: No question that there is a vast amount of information out there on almost any problem that one may have. But it's scattered all over the place, between the Wiki, the Manual, the forum(s) and various other web sites.

Pretty much everything I meant by this thread, condensed into one sentence. Thanks. It's the nested searches that are both worst and most common: search for one thing, find something describing what to do, but involving five actions that each are unknown to me, requiring search, which ends up with five new searches each... Like a Hydra.

stevepusser wrote:We give advice to use the command line because, unlike certain other OS types, which rhyme with shmindows and shmapple, *nixes have a multitude of different desktops, GUI configuration tools, editors and so on, but the terminal commands will always be the same, and work.

On Wheezy, you can install a newer Iceweasel/Firefox from mozilla.debian.net or directly from Mozilla. Newer versions will need gstreamer1.0 plugin and libav packages from the wheezy-backports for HTML5 video. Youtube pushes HTML 5 video to versions >= 40 automatically.

Similar gstreamer requirements are necessary for the Firefox derived Pale Moon browser--I maintain a repository which autobuilds Debian 7, 8, and Ubuntu packages: https://software.opensuse.org/download. ... e=palemoon

The Debian handbook may also be of use: https://debian-handbook.info/get/now/
This is also a thing: I had no idea Iceweasel had stopped updating. I'm still running v. 38.8.0, which probably means it has as many security holes as a sieve.


mozilla.debian.net has the following text: "WARNING: Iceweasel is gone. Please update your apt sources." and the latest version of Iceweasel to choose from is esr38. What to make of that? They quit keeping it up to date and are recommending Firefox instead? Wikipedia Iceweasel page quote: "with the stable branch planning to switch [to Firefox] after Iceweasel's end of life".

End of life? What's the "end of life" for a browser?

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Re: Debian feels like having to remove panel, short the wire

#22 Post by sunrat »

There was an Iceweasel security update today -
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Debian Security Advisory DSA-3600-1 security@debian.org
https://www.debian.org/security/ Moritz Muehlenhoff
June 09, 2016 https://www.debian.org/security/faq
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------

Package : firefox-esr
CVE ID : CVE-2016-2818 CVE-2016-2819 CVE-2016-2821 CVE-2016-2822
CVE-2016-2828 CVE-2016-2831

Multiple security issues have been found in the Mozilla Firefox web
browser: Multiple memory safety errors, buffer overflows and other
implementation errors may lead to the execution of arbitrary code or
spoofing.

Wait, Firefox? No more references to Iceweasel? That's right, Debian no
longer applies a custom branding. Please see these links for further
information:
https://glandium.org/blog/?p=3622
https://en.wikipedia...anded_by_Debian

Debian follows the extended support releases (ESR) of Firefox. Support
for the 38.x series has ended, so starting with this update we're now
following the 45.x releases and this update to the next ESR is also the
point where we reapply the original branding.

Transition packages for the iceweasel packages are provided which
automatically upgrade to the new version. Since new binary packages need
to be installed, make sure to allow that in your upgrade procedure (e.g.
by using "apt-get dist-upgrade" instead of "apt-get upgrade").

For the stable distribution (jessie), these problems have been fixed in
version 45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1.

For the unstable distribution (sid), these problems have been fixed in
version 45.2.0esr-1.
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Re: Debian feels like having to remove panel, short the wire

#23 Post by stevepusser »

Mozilla was maintaining Firefox 38 as an ESR (extended security release), which means that security fixes were applied for each point release of that, eight in all. I think the current ESR is version 45. Since Iceweasel is basically a renamed Firefox, the same applies. I'm pretty sure that Debian will try and keep the stock Jessie version of Iceweasel up to date concerning security holes, usually by backporting upstream fixes to the stock version.

Iceweasel "died" in the sense that Debian no longer renames Firefox.
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Re: Debian feels like having to remove panel, short the wire

#24 Post by sunrat »

The package "iceweasel" is now a transitional package that installs Firefox. As mentioned in the security bulletin, you should dist-upgrade.
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Re: Debian feels like having to remove panel, short the wire

#25 Post by aNoobInSweden »

It installed automatically by the update reminder thing. Video works now. I'll mark this as solved.

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