it took me several hours scattered over some time I stole from other things I do, to figure it out!
Thanks for the time, but just so I get it, are you saying the dummy pulseaudio.deb is the solution?
I wouldn't know. I'm not very advanced...
...Ah, it might work... To be honest, I miss Debian as it used to be. And, the rift could be bridged btwn Debian and Devuan, if the freedom was back, but really. Jaromil, the leader of the Devuan project, a fork of Debian says so in the video:
Devuan GNU+Linux presented at FSCONS 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMvyOGawNwo
somewhere from: 0:36:30 (but adding #t0:36:30 to the url didn't make it for me start at 36min 30sec, and it should, how come?).
It's not just systemd, but also the other (can I call it:) poetterware? dbus, *kits (sure: pulse) and other (what is, in my opinion) non-true unix programs/packages...
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firefox: Mon Nov 21 23:28:39 2016: 5510 seconds
This is how long it took on an i3, Gentoo.[/code]
However, this binary was built using shared libraries, already present in the system.
One hour and a half!? Can't be... It takes around one hour here, and my system is older... IIUC.
Intel won't let me view the page:http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ ... essor.html
probably because I have tracking protection... and I'm not disabling it on intel.com... Give me anonymous browsing of your site, you big dirty business!...
And my system is olde:
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$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 16
model : 4
model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor
stepping : 3
( that's a 4-core old phenom...).
dummkopf wrote: BTW, ALSA cannot be tossed, ALSA still has to be there, Pulseaudio is just a parasite layer between ALSA and user applications.
Go and have a look, they even changed the title... Looks like they're promising to require Pulseaudio on everybody.
And here's what I believe is the real issue about Pulse:
In the Sureveillance Age that we live in, in which everybody carries
appliances that state spies, and world spies like Google, can all listen
at any later date, they just locate where any event that you took part
in, private or public, they don't have any consideration, the most
private events included, any event, as they have all in their databases,
years later if they want to, and apply a search on it just like the
Google users --I keep to duckduckgo.com-- search in their browsers, and
in this case it's searching through sound, and they find whatever they
search for, in their databases of recordings...
in this Surveillance Age we live in, you now tell me what Pulseaudio
is for, with all the remote seats --sure they may have renamed those, I
do not follow their development in the least anymore-- of some
policykit's and stuff? You tell me!
Yeah, they've even changed the title:
Require PulseAudio to play sound
while the old title was just "Require PulseAudio on Linux
". Feel like a promise... No.. Mozilla has also good developers, just like Debian still has... But if I were one, I couldn't bare the overwhelming overbearance of the poetterware...